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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.

This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers. 
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Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: [url]https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng[/url]

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle. [/quote]

That's completely false.  UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka.  Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.[/quote]

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources.  They are greatly undercounting deaths.[/quote]

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

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That website states that it is an undercount and “The actual death toll is likely significantly higher. ”

Note that Russia also has a lot of PMC’s, prisoners, and other irregular troops that are not counted. Not to mention militias from the Donbas that are not counted.[/quote]

Prigozhin said he lost 20k troops just in Bakhmut.[/quote]

Russia is losing roughly 15,000-20,000 soldiers per month in Ukraine. More lately because of how awful the fighting is in Adviika. Most are mobiks from the hinterlands. The smart ones in Moscow and St. Petersburg all left at the start of the war. There are now huge Russian populations in Indonesia and Turkey.

Technically, Russia can absorb these losses of men. It's a big country. It's their equipment losses that are a problem. Thousands of tanks, not to mention all the armored personnel carriers, artillery etc.

This is a really grim war. You can go to twitter or telegram or reddit and see it all. It's horrible.

I think Ukrainians understand this is going to be a long war. And so they are in soldier preservation mode. They are on defense. Would not expect a major offensive from Ukrainians in the foreseeable future. They're just trying to survive. Ukraine has 44 million people. Russia has 143 million people

We've reached the point where life preservation for Ukrainian soldiers has become pretty important. Russians don't care at all. [/quote]

Huge numbers of Russian soldiers died at Bakhmut, at Vuhledar, at Avdiivka and many other places.  Russia is wasting its future on a war that is causing it massive attrition - even as Russia heads into a crisis of population collapse.  [/quote]

Any estimates that can't address the questions of "what were their names?" and "where are their bodies?" is probably a hoax to some degree.

The people claiming big numbers of Russian dead have a problem with the bodies. Early in the war Ukrainian propaganda at least was talking about mobile crematoriums. Then it devolved into "meat cubes," now they are too lazy to even attempt to solve the body problem. They just act like Russians come out of some cloning lab and despawn when hit. [/quote]

No.  You missed the articles about the backed up trucks at the crematoriums.  Go back about 200 pages.  Now Russia mostly leaves the bodies lying around wherever.  Apparently dead Russian soldiers aren't worth wasting the vehicles or fuel to transport back anymore since it's winter and another 4 months before anything is likely done about it.  But if you believe that the Russians are 'winning' or that they aren't dying in huge numbers, maybe you can explain where the 25th Combined Arms Army is right now and why they were committed?  https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-army-15-000-soldiers-145402713.html

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I'm completely at a loss as to what you are implying with the 25th with that article from September. Are you implying that rotating forces is some sort of sign of disaster? Rotations are what any competent army does. You don't leave troops on the front indefinitely to be ground down, unless you are Ukraine which seems to think that's a great plan.

[b]This fatigue factor is a large part of why Ukraine inflicts such disproportionate casualties and why Russians surrender so easily.[/b] [/quote]

Fixed it for you  :mrgreen: [/quote]

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