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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no doubt Ukrainians have suffered enormous casualties. Maybe not as bad as Russians, who are losing almost a 1000 a day in places like Avdiivka.

This is a serious war. Saw a report that indicates that Russians have less than a 4 percent chance of surviving a year on the front. I'm sure it's similar for Ukrainian soldiers. 
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Speaking of BS...

Russia would have had to have lost their entire army almost twice over for your 4 percent figure to be even remotely possible. Given what we can guess about Russian force size and casualties, its probably more like a 4 percent chance of dying since the start of the SMO.

If you want to see Russian casualties, you can just look here: [url]https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng[/url]

There was an uptick in October when Russia started pushing on Avdeevka, but it wasn't even 1,000 for the month on all fronts combined.

And surely you must realize that if Russia was losing 1,000 a day there, then they wouldn't be winning that battle. [/quote]

That's completely false.  UK and other intelligence services have independently confirmed a high in daily numbers of Russian casualties near 1000 at Avdiivka.  Only 1000 troops lost in Russia in a month is absolute laughable delusion.[/quote]

Mediazona's info is solely based on info released by or confirmed by Russian government sources.  They are greatly undercounting deaths.[/quote]

They use publicly available documents. When someone dies in this day and age, it creates a paper trail. Mediazona has the names, ranks, date of death and other information. Who do you think they are missing? Can you name an individual you think died but isn't listed? Do you think they are systematically missing people from certain regions, or population groups? Where are the bodies?

Intel agency data is in the "trust me bro" tier. Where do their numbers come from, and what data corroborates their counts? Do you know their methodology? Intelligence agencies produce reports they find useful, not necessarily truthful.

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There are plenty of other sources as well - for example Prigozhin himself admitted that over 20,000 Wagner troops got killed when they tried to capture Bakhmut, with another 40,000 injured, which is far closer to Ukrainian and western intel sources than any counts coming from official Russian lists or sources.  That one campaign, by Wagner alone, would account for more than half of the supposed Russian combat casualties.  The Russian figures do not add up.

Not to mention, Russian figures average to only 30 a day, when on a daily basis there is video after video showing massive Russian troop and equipment losses far in excess of that. A thermal video came out yesterday from a Ukrainian sniper who killed 12 Russian soldiers and injured several more over the span of just an hour.  Are we to believe Russian numbers, where a single Ukrainian sniper can account for half the supposed daily losses of Russia?  Again, the Russian figures do not add up.

Stop posting Russian numbers.  They are illogical and nonsensical and do not stand up to even the lightest scrutiny.[/quote]

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