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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Now, as for your side point that when a woman converted to Islam, her marriage to a disbeliever was invalidated, this is not necessarily true.

What is true is that a disbeliever is one who is hostile toward Islam and such a person can not be the guardian of his wife if she is a Muslim. Disbelievers in Prophet Muhammads time were fighting Muslims. How can he then be expected to support his wife's faith?

Even though a disbeliever can not be a guardian to a Muslim, the marriage was not forcibly ended. Sometimes the couple had children and sometimes they needed time to work through their differences. The Prophet permitted this. His own daughter, Zainab bint Muhammad, was married before his prophethood. She converted to Islam but her husband refused to do so. [b]They remained married for six years but lived apart. Eventually her husband converted.[/b]

Forget what the four jurisprudence schools say on this matter or what Sharias of different countries say. Forget what scholars say also. History shows  prophet Muhammad exercised patience in these situations and allowed wives to take a wait and see approach, especially if there were kids involved. [/quote]

Living apart is hardly keeping the marriage intact. [/quote]

As I said, in Islam, a disbelieving husband may not be a guardian over a believing wife. But if there are extenuating circumstances, the couple may take time to dwell over their difference of opinion, much like a separation in the US. As was the case with the Prophets daughter, time can indeed be helpful. However, Islam doesn't make apologies for the fact that divorce may be the only choice if the disbelieving husband will not convert. A disbelieving husband is not going to be supportive towards the practice of Islam. [/quote]
I didn't ask you to make apologies for it, just not to pretend that it isn't so.

I also don't think that Muhammad's paternity of Zainab is taken as a fact.  A good chunk of Muslims believe Fatima is his only child who lived into adulthood.[/quote]

How can I be pretending it isn't so when I'm telling you point blank that a disbeliever may not be a guardian over a believer and that makes perfect sense to most Muslims. However, you neglected to explain that conversion does not result in automatic divorce. Couples are given time to see if the disbeliever will convert.

Lets assume Zainab was NOT Muhammad's daughter. She was, but lets grant you that. Even if Zainab were not the Prophet's daughter, she was a believer whose marriage to a disbeliever was not automatically terminated. And this shows that some leniency is afforded by way of time. [/quote]

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