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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Woops! I meant Georgetown not Cornell.[/quote] Well. of course, 1/4th or 1/2 the tuition at Georgetown is a lot of money because Georgetown costs a lot of money. But that leaves a lot of money the parents come up with for the balance of the tuition, living expenses, etc. The Ivies, however, offer an even better deal. Instead of giving a package of fractional scholarships and student loans and other stuff, the Ivies will meet 100% of demonstrated "need" from their own funds. Of course, that might mean little to high income people who have sent their children to private schools in DC, unless they cleverly cover their assets in their financial aid forms. Two other points: First, because of the spread of lacrosse across the country, you can look for the number of IAC recruits to decrease. Bigger, faster and stronger kids from public schools across the country will start to take their place. If parents are hoping to cash in in 4 or 5 years from the current system, they should be aware that the sand underneath their feet is shifting rapidly. Secondly, for the past 15 years, lacrosse has been the ticket for some kids to get into schools that they normally couldn't aspire to. The downside of this is that they have been in classrooms with kids that are smarter and work harder than they do. While no one ever fails out of these top schools, at the same time the parents are paying whatever they pay to get and education that is not exactly what you might think. [b]A Princeton academic studied Ivy League athletes about 15 years ago and found that the post college careers of these students mirrored what it would have been if they were to have attended a state school. The Ivy League education had little impact on their careers versus what they would have had had they attended less-prestigious colleges[/b].[/quote] I'd love to see that study. How in world could they come to any conclusion on what might have happened to students if they attended other schools? I can't imagine any harm that would result from attending a more elite schools as opposed to a less elite school. Most of the IAC players who attend Ivies handle the academics with ease. Duke is not an Ivy, but a Landon kid at Duke was just named a Collegiate Academic All-American and one of the Landon seniors headed to the Ivy League was a High School Academic All-American. Most kids from elite DC private schools can handle Ivy league academics. Frankly, the academic competition is often less than tehy experienced in high school.[/quote] Well, I didn't want to get too far into it, but obviously he had a control group. As I remember it, he took a group of Ivy League athletes along with their SAT scores, high school grades, calls rank, etc. and compared them against a group of other athletes with the same profiles who attended less prestigious schools to see if their post college careers, earnings, etc. were any different. His study found that they weren't. In terms of a career or post college earnings, the college they attended had little or no impact. I can see harm here in terms of wasted time. Imagine yourself in a class where you are at the bottom in terms of preparation and basic smarts. The class is taught at a higher level and at a higher speed than you can easily absorb. What are you actually getting out of it? Now take the same student and put him or her in a classroom where they are of the same ability level as their classmates and the class is taught to this level. I have been around this lacrosse world for a while. And for every success story you can come up with, I can show you the opposite. In my experience Duke and Georgetown and Brown and others have taken kids that have shocked and dismayed the faculty and college placement staff. To many in the DC private school world, this is blasphemy because it suggest that education at prestigious schools isn't all they want it to be. It's great if you are prepared for it. But a waste of time and money if you are not. Of course, it is fun for the parents to impress their friends with. And they are hoping that somehow this academic credential will help. The data from this study said it did not.[/quote]
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