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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][size=18] [/size][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Answer the question does antizionism equal antisemitism. I don’t care if there are American jews in the marines etc. no kidding. My Jewish friends believe these words are synonymous and have hastily branded anyone including children who state negative attitudes towards Israel as being both and will not really engage with any nonjew who questions anything, they shutdown the convo immediately. This seems a little narrow minded and frankly unfair. That is why I am on this forum as I am terrified to even broach the topic with any American acquaintances who are Jewish. [/quote]

Did you read the OP? That’s the entire topic of this thread. If by antizionism you mean criticism of the Israeli government then no, it’s not antisemitic on its own (but could be motivated by antisemitism). If by antizionism you mean thinking the state of Israel should be dismantled then yeah, that’s very probably antisemitic.

“My Jewish friends believe these words are synonymous and have hastily branded anyone including children who state negative attitudes towards Israel as being [antisemitic]” 
You keep hijacking threads to talk about this alleged bullying incident at your child’s school. I have a really hard time believing your kid was branded an antisemite simply for criticizing the Israeli government, but idk maybe. Kids are dumb and cruel sometimes. That  doesn’t justify your insane persecution complex. You seem to think the Jews are out to get you and ruin your life if you so much as breathe a word about Israel and uhhh……look around you ma’am. Anti-Israel sentiment is incredibly pervasive. People don’t seem AT ALL afraid to be very very open about it.[/quote]
Yes, unfortunately it is true my DC is seen by the jewish community as being antisemitic and the Jewish americans I am acquainted with are not open and engaging as far as any inquiries regarding their country. It’s very off putting. [/quote]

Give it up lady. Your local synagogue does not have a wanted poster for your 8 year old. Also “Jewish Americans” are … US citizens. Israel is not “their country.”[/quote]
No, but I don’t appreciate my DC being falsely accused as being a racist/bigot. This is slander and you wouldn’t like it if it were happening to your child. I am aware that Americans are American citizens, however the American jews I have associated with consider Israel their homeland. 
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You still have not provided all the details of this “false accusation” - and then generalizing whatever happened between children to come to conclusions about antisemitism is obviously problematic. Especially when you seem to have absolutely zero instinct or understanding about what is actually antisemitic (such as — assuming all American Jews are also Israeli). I’m also curious about what exactly your supposed Jewish friends told you. My guess is you are misunderstanding. [/quote]
Is branding a child as being a racist/bigot/antisemite ever acceptable? No adults were present for this conversation but ultimately the Jewish American parents supported their DC branding my DC antisemite because they felt threatened due to a conversation between children about the middle east. I am not an antisemite and neither is my DC. This family rarely will even engage with me at all, how would they even know what my thoughts were?[/quote]

who “branded” your child anything? You sound extremely defensive. Even if this once incident is true, it says nothing about the overall discussion. All we know is that the Jewish child felt offended. The way schools deal with that stuff could be an entirely different thread. [/quote]
This jewish family branded my DC anantisemite.[/quote]

You are going to have to provide more details. [/quote]

I’d rather she didn’t actually. She got another thread about antisemitism locked because she kept interjecting and derailing the conversation. This has been a productive thread overall and I don’t want to give her the power to single-handedly shut it down. [/quote]
The conversation topic is antizionism is not antisemitism. It seems like first hand anecdotes involving these issues are irrelevant unless it fits a certain narrative. [/quote]

Ok sure, but what universal truths do you suppose we can extrapolate from this one alleged schoolyard bullying incident? Parents will stick up for their bully kids? Ok then. No one on this thread is arguing that “Israel is killing people” is an antisemitic statement. Move on.[/quote]
This is obviously more than a bullying incident particularly because we live amongst thousands of Jews. Now I have to figure out how to pick up the pieces and navigate my DC through all of this in the most politically correct, benign, nonoffensive way possible as a nonjew. [/quote]

Good luck with all that. [/quote]
It’s a losing battle. [/quote]

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