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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is strategic, not something that will happen overnight.

When DA folded, ECNL was there, established, and had positioned themselves to take over the girls game.

That is the position GA is in right now. No one knows where college will be in the next 3+ years. Last I heard they were wanting to be governed by US Soccer as well…

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1000% true.

Eventually NWSL is going to need to focus on the quality of the product they put on the  field. Once this happens GA MLSN and US Soccer will be where they turn.[/quote]

Lol. Why the GA? [/quote]

Firstly because they are self sanctioned now, less red tape compared to ECNL.

Second, NWSL will get more of what it wants. ECNL doesn’t need a pro pathway, and they’re not setup for it, easier to set the pathway up from GA than a platform that is largely a scholarship program.

Third, have you seen women’s college soccer? It’s awful. Watch the national championship, first touches bouncing 8 yards like a u-little match. That is what academy soccer produces for NCAA. If you were NWSL wouldn’t you want a platform that you can shape almost ground up vs current brick-touch Academy soccer?
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I assumed the atrocious technical skills at the “top” local clubs was a reflection of the DMV ECNL-G programs and things were different in the bigger US soccer markets, but, after watching several women’s games in the NCAA tournament a few weeks ago, it seems to me we have a universal and systemic problem in the US. I don’t watch much NWSL, but it’s not like this in the pro women’s leagues in England and Spain. I’m not commenting on overall quality as it goes without saying that a pro in one of those leagues should be a better player than someone playing even in a top college program.  I’m commenting on basic skills, like receiving the ball, that young adults should have developed years ago. But I don’t see how GA is any better positioned to fix things—there just aren’t enough good coaches in the US. [/quote]

Outside of Real Madrid and Barcelona, NWSL teams are better than teams in the Spanish league. NWSL is also a better league than the English League based on quality of players and teams.

Nobody on UNC or Wake Forest could “receive the ball”? Please stop.

Tell me you know nothing about women’s sports without telling me you know nothing about women’s sports.

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Oh the irony in your last sentence.

It is pretty clear that there are 8-10 teams in Europe that would win the NWSL year in and year out. The NWSL has parity, which is great, but no team in NWSL would win England, France, Spain league at this point.

Of the top 50 best womens footballers in the world. 10 play in the NWSL. 40 play in Europe…………

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I think that's pretty wrong, but let's say you are right, what does that say about the current state of girls youth soccer in the U.S.? ECNL getting it done? Switching to SY going to change things? Title IX and the college system gave us a head start but is it good enough now?[/quote]
This bad take on US women’s soccer comes up every year. Then the US goes and wins the gold medal in the olympics against these countries that are supposedly so far ahead of us. The US women don’t dominate the rest of the world but to say Europe is so far ahead is just not supported by facts. Don’t confuse a particular style of play with being superior. Not all European teams are play technical either.[/quote]

This was a discussion of NWSL being a superior league, not an indictment on USWNT. But is it just a coincidence that our resurgence after terrible prior Olympics and WC comes with a European coach moving towards players with a European style?  Maybe?  [/quote]

Go watch YouTube interviews with Emma. Her time here and US soccer culture made her who she is. She took that standard of excellence from our women’s game to England and dominated.
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You’re mixing apples and oranges.  For relative seriousness with which the women’s game is taken, the US model indeed has been exported to various parts of the world, including England.  For how to play the game, sorry, we are importers, not exporters.  Other countries look to their men’s programs for how to play, not the US women’s program.[/quote]

This is from an article even before the Olympics….

'Every game is like a Champions League game'

The question, though, remains. Without a true measuring stick to compare NWSL to other leagues, how can you know where the league stands? How would Gotham fare against, say, Barcelona? Could Bay FC compete in the WSL?

Right now, all we can go on are the words of players who have played at different levels. According to Gotham's Esther Gonzalez, though, the NWSL has the edge. Gonzalez, a member of Spain's World Cup-winning team, signed with Gotham in 2023. Prior to that, she played for clubs all over Spain, including Real Madrid, Levante and Atletico Madrid. In her opinion, the pure depth in the NWSL is unmatched, as the league is the hardest to play in from top to bottom.

"One of the biggest differences with the Spanish League, which is a great league, is that here all the games, absolutely all of them, are like a Champions League game, at the highest level," she said. "In Spain, there are some games that you can win four or five to zero, that your physical wear and tear is normal, that you have everything under control..."

She added: "Here every game is like playing against Barca, which is the best team in the Spanish League: your level has to be the maximum, your physical demand is the maximum, and that happens weekend after weekend.

"Afterwards, the big difference is control. In Spain, we have a lot of control over the games, the times, when to pause, when to attack and when not to. Here they look so physically superior that it's all about transitions."

https://www.goal.com/en-us/lists/the-nwsl-is-back-how-america-top-flight-has-fought-back-against-europe-big-spenders/blt095517da66f2d9e7
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Who cares where the NWSL stands?  Most people could care less.  Even girls I to soccer could care less. We play our game.  If we lose we lose.  Not trying to get better here.  This is a thread about Ecnl and ga soccer. Not pro soccer. Ecnl and ga soccer are geared toward the American college game.  Not pros.  That seems about right for 95% of the players.  As to the 5%, who cares. Move to Europe.  [/quote]

Hahahahaha -- thanks for trying to change the subject so much that you in essence admit you've lost this point (as what you're responding to has context to this entire discussion and all you're doing here is trying to move the goal posts on the discussion!)[/quote]

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