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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. There are many examples of genocide being suggested through signs and symbols. It's not clear that anyone is quoted as saying "let's go genocide all the Jews."  So as someone who supports Gay's ouster, her comment that "context matters" is problematic. She wouldn't have said for example, "I don't know why the white supremacists were carrying tiki torches. Maybe they were headed to a luau."  But she is defending this kind of behavior when Jews are the target. No Bueno.  . . [/quote]

Just did a very cursory DDG search on Harvard pro Palestinian protest; a few signs read:

“When people are occupied, resistance is justified”

“One solution, Revolution “

“From the River to the Sea”

“We stand with the Palestinian resistance “

“By any means necessary “

“Decolonization is not a metaphor “

Several of these campus slogans are direct calls for genocide (“from the river to the sea” - lifted directly from Hamas: a designated terrorist organization).  Others are more subtle calls for violence.

All of these protests violate the standard, which is “hostile learning environment.”

While students must be free to express their views on public university grounds (and they SHOULD be allowed at privates like the Ivies), the slogans above clearly create a hostile learning environment for Jewish students.

The fact these Ivy presidents could not even express opposition to genocide of Jewish people is enough to justify their complete dismissal.  In Gay’s case, she was not even docked pay; she was merely moved around among the Harvard elite.[/quote]

If “from the river to the sea”, which is also in the formation documents of the governing party of Israel as a call for Israeli rule over the same territory (thus constituting a call for genocide of all Palestinians, by your logic), is legitimately objectionable on those shaky grounds, then the very existence of Zionism is also a call for genocide of all Palestinians, too, right?

So given that, why is there complete silence around the “hostile learning environment” created by every student, faculty member and staff at these institutions who supports Zionism in any way, shape, or form?

The stated, immutable aim of Zionism is indivisible Jewish dominion (by an immigrant population) over the region through forced displacement (removal or death as acceptable means) of the indigenous population.

Zionism = Genocide, yet we seemingly cannot tackle that one[/quote]

I don't understand your logic. You are allowed to be Muslim in Israel. The reverse isn't true. Hamas explicitly calls for genocide. Israel doesn't. In fact, they have tried repeatedly to get Muslim nations to take in the Palestinian "refugees."  Israel also pays for all of Palestine's every and water. If they wanted to commit genocide, it'd be easy. They would just turn off the water. [/quote]

Let talk about your logic. Jews create Israel out of nothing in the holy site of three religions, expel Muslim from Israel because they are not Jewish, steal their property and now it is the responsibility of other nations to take them in?

No. War crimes are not the fault of victims and others do not need to take care of the dead bodies piled up by the perpetrators of the crime. By your logic nazi German was within it rights. [/quote]

You are ill informed. Jews did not create Israel, the UN did. [/quote]

More like the British Empire and Christian countries did, ignoring the will of the Muslim world.[/quote]

In other words…the UN.

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How do even look yourself in the mirror when one side of your mouth incessantly bashes every position the U.N. Has taken for the past 75 years, while the other side trumpets the U.N. partition action (which if you were honest, you would at least acknowledge Israel’s Zionist founders forced by committing terrorist acts that drove the partition decision)?[/quote]

Pretty easy, since I’m not Israel, Israeli or Jewish.

Pretty damn funny you jumped to that conclusion, though.

Says something about you, doesn’t it?
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