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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here's the solution. Set a filter with X GPA and Y SAT scores. Throw all people who make it into the pool and use a random computer algorithm to pick people. Totally the fairest way to choose. All of the extraneous stuff is nonsense. Schools should decide where they want to set the bar for quality, then have a completely race agnostic system for selection. Drawing straws is fair after the cutoff is met.[/quote] Except, there are so many problems with this supposed fair solution and how the algorithm will work: 1. Who is a better engineering candidate...a kid with a 1400 SAT that is 800 Math / 600 Verbal, or a kid with a 1500 SAT that is 700 Math / 800 verbal? Flip that example around for someone applying as an English Major? 2. Who is a better college applicant...the kid that was one of the 10 Regeneron finalists with a 1550 SAT...or a kid that did nothing but has a 1590 SAT? 3. If you are applying to Yale for drama...how does any of this apply? 4. Again, who is the better candidate...the kid that had to work 30 hours per week during the school year to help support his family and got a 1500 SAT with no test prep help, or the rich kid that received 50 hours of paid test prep and scored a 1550? The list could go on and on...how will the algorithm figure this out? [/quote] You have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. There are too many people with perfect qualifications, as this thread goes on and on about, so most of your points are moot. Set the limit for quality than randomly choose. End of story. No more fluff garbage like saving infants in 3rd world countries, no more sob stories of growing up without running water, no more BS my dad is an alumni and contributes a lot of money, no more ID crap. Random selection. Donezo.[/quote] You are free to start a university and do exactly this. However, current universities are free to set their own guidelines for selecting students. FYI---they obviously see the value in accepting the low income/inner city student with only a 1500 who works 30 hours/week to help support their family. The fact that it might come at the expense of your kid does not make it the wrong choice. A High SAT does not (and should not) guarantee you admission to an elite college. [/quote] +1 You can not tell the colleges what to do - just because you tell your kids what to do, does not mean the rest of the world works like that. [/quote] Outside of High level finance or PE firms, who works with only people who attended an Ivy/T20 school? Who works with kids who got 4.0/1600 in HS? Not very likely, because most of us work with people who went to CC/basic 4 year state U that admits 90% all the way up to T20 grads. Much more likely you work with non-T20 grads. Even if you are a T20 grad, there is a good chance your boss is not. Fact is majority of people go on to succeed in life no matter where they go to college. It's what they do in life/at college that propels them to success, not where they went to college. [/quote]
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