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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I promise you, the people on this thread with the hateful comments are clearly republicans letting us all know what they really think of poor people. [/quote]

Bette Midler took the red pill?  Nagh, didn’t think so.

Screw Manchin and the other republicans.[/quote]

Strawmen.
Nobody is hating on poor people for being poor.   They are questioning the judgement of poor people for continually making choices at the polls that keep them dead last in the nation.[/quote]
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And it’s obviously the GOP that has the disdain for the poor. No one else begrudges poor people getting a hand up. The only hand the GOP wants to give poor people is strong one to the shoulder to push them off the ladder entirely. [/quote]

Exactly. And if Manchin ultimately holds up this bill he should be held accountable. I’m sorry his feelings are hurt.  But is he really intending to sell his voters out like this? Maybe he thinks he doesn’t need them.  Maybe the big money Conservatives (who like to call themselves moderates or independents) in his state are enough to keep him in office.  But west Virginians, who voted for Trump, may want someone else. The crazy thing is I could see Trump republicans supporting a lot of the stuff in this bill if they weren’t blinded by partisanship.  It’s the “moderate” conservative republicans who are selling them out.   [/quote]

The sad fact is his constituents do need the provisions in BBB - desperately. But like many of Americans white poor and working class, they are more preoccupied, thanks to Fox News and the unethical, power-at-any-cost with boogeymen like “socialism” and “critical race theory” and that climate change is a hoax. They are voting against their best interests and they got the leader they deserve: Manchin. A millionaire who is a-ok with his impoverished state staying poor and poor people continuing to suffer as long as it keeps him in power.[/quote]

Look, this narrative is really not helpful even though you think you’re telling the truth. The truth is actually a lot more complicated and I urge you to be more empathetic.  Yes, it appears they are voting against what you see as their best interests, but if they believe the lies, can you blame them? Most voters are unsophisticated, so really it’s the failure of elected officials to lead that causes what you’re seeing.   Manchin has done a a poor job pulling his people out of the conservative black hole, and echoing RW talking points on FN doesn’t help. I don’t know if he doesn’t care, if he’s on the take, or if he’s drinking the koolaide now too.  But he seems extremely bitter and maybe it’s time for someone new. Unfortunately I think he’s going to hand his state to a Trumper if he doesn’t make it through the next few years. That’s my gut.[/quote]

I’m empathetic and think we’re in agreement. Manchin could have championed BBB and brought his constituents along. Instead he buckled to special interests and Republican pressure. [/quote]

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