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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Women can still have women's rights.  They just need to make sure the emotional needs of past and present male identifying people are met first.
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As it has always been. Sigh.[/quote]

This is pathetic. Trans women face discrimination and prejudice and bigotry every single day of their lives. Double that if they’re also Black or a person of color in which case they face increased rates of violence. But yeah you two are def the ones being oppressed here. [/quote]

This isn’t supposed to be a race to the bottom, where the most oppressed party wins.  There are principles of equal treatment and human dignity we expect society to uphold.

Women fought long and hard for equal treatment under the law.  [b]People aren’t arguing to take away rights from transgender people. [/b] But some aspects of our society, like competition in sports, are divided by sex (not gender identity), to give women an equal chance to participate in those activities.

Some accommodations, like homeless shelters or domestic violence services, are divided by sex to give protection to vulnerable members of society.  No one is stopping people concerned about vulnerable transgender people from creating programs and services for them.  They’re objecting to having to include them in the same programs as natural-born women.  If you require everyone to say that transgender women are women, you end up ignoring reality and end up providing cover for men who want access to vulnerable women.  Women in those situations have a right to privacy and dignity.  Transgender women have those same rights, and can be served by having their own programs and protections.  [/quote]

Guess you haven’t read the news. 
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DP. There has even an onslaught of news in the last three years attacking women’s rights too. Which isn’t me saying women have it worse than trans women...I agree that trans women are probably the most vulnerable group (of adults) in our society.

I actually find the fact that the trans activists here don’t acknowledge this to be the greatest indication of where their head is here. If you don’t think women are still fighting for equality than it makes sense that there’s no difference and you can call yourself and be what you want.

But that isn’t true. Women’s rights are also being attacked every day in this country. [/quote]

“Trans activists”?

My #1 issue for the last 30 years has been women’s rights. I welcome all women to the fold. And I support trans men as well. That does not take away my support for women’s issues in any way.

We all would benefit from civil rights, access to health care, etc.

Just yesterday: 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/us/politics/trump-transgender-rights.html

It’s not a zero sum game. 
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I don’t know why the term trans activist would offend you. It is what you’re doing and it’s great there should be trans activists. I know you would disagree but I think of myself as one. Someone above said I’m like a close  trump supporter which is like, literally hilarious in its absurdity.

If you think that I, a person who believes deeply in supporting trans people’s ability to lead whatever longer they wish, call themselves whatever gender they want, use whatever pronouns they want, be able to marry freely and be protected from discrimination. If you think all of that counts for nothing and the fact that my concerns about language diluting women’s advocacy erase all that and turn me into a trump supporter bigot than you really need to examine why you require 1000% agreement too be satisfied. The country will never ever move forward and grow under those types of purity tests[/quote]

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