Toggle navigation
Toggle navigation
Home
DCUM Forums
Nanny Forums
Events
About DCUM
Advertising
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics
FAQs and Guidelines
Privacy Policy
Your current identity is: Anonymous
Login
Preview
Subject:
Forum Index
»
Political Discussion
Reply to "Comey is out!"
Subject:
Emoticons
More smilies
Text Color:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Violet
White
Black
Font:
Very Small
Small
Normal
Big
Giant
Close Marks
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] First, let me say that I appreciate the civil and reasoned response. I agree with you that we need to always be on our guard against attempts to limit our freedoms and civil liberties. My point is that despite all of the hysteria that this is happening under Trump his critics are not able to cite what he has actually done in this regard. Just to be clear, I did not vote for Trump and I actually find the man to be offensive and unqualified but I am respectful of the democratic process and he won under the system that we have for selecting a president. I don't respect the man but I still respect the office and so I accord to him the respect that he is entitled to as president. As I said I have lived in countries that range from being almost akin to dictatorships to those that are subject to benevolent autocracies which are ostensibly democratic and much of the criticism that is leveled at Trump and before him other presidents would result in severe penalties and even physical harm in those countries. This is why I think the hysteria that Trump is a threat to our freedoms and democracy goes beyond the pale. I heard Dershowitz opine that after the first EO banning entry from certain countries when the judge in Seattle blocked the order and another judge in Boston said the order was legal, he said Trump should just say that he was going to follow the Boston judge's ruling - he nonetheless complied with the injunction. Trump has autocratic tendencies for sure but he has so far realized his limitations as president. [/quote] When the President refers to any media that he doesn't like as "fake", he undermines it. When the President refers to the judiciary as "so called judges" because he doesn't agree with their decisions; when he seriously suggests a circuit court be broken up, he undermined it. This happens slowly, but the fact that a sizable percentage of the US population actually believes the President despite the contradictions and lies that re on video and can be viewed side by side is telling. Facts are beginning not to matter; alternative facts (ie lies) become acceptable; the rule of law is eroded as Trump pushes more and more without any penalty. Benjamin Franklins response when asked the result of the Constitutional Convention said "We have a republic, if we can keep it" - we have kept it for over 200 years, but we are seriously at the point where we are about to fall into an autocracy. The administration is flauting nepotism laws - it sets up Ivanka or Jared as a "successor"; the GOP has gerrymandered itself into the ruling class and is rubber stamping most of the agenda - as long as they get the crumbs, they are willing to turn a bling eye to the overt corruption. The Administration is seriously looking at alterations to the First Amendment. Ideas are floated, some are sticking, some are getting push back. But as much as this reads like a conspiracy theory, until someone with the ability stands up to it, it will continue to erode until we reach a tipping point. [/quote]
Options
Disable HTML in this message
Disable BB Code in this message
Disable smilies in this message
Review message
Search
Recent Topics
Hottest Topics