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[quote=Anonymous]You are surprisingly ignorant about the government structures of other countries....

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If you think CA contributes only in population then you have no grasp about anything. You are confusing the senate to direct election of the president. Nobody is arguing the usefulness of the senate in acting as strong voice for small states. But to elect a president it shoud simply be one person-one vote. Period.[b] That's how every nation In the world works. [/b]There is no country other than the slavery era EC used by USA that skews the vote so a small state voter has 4/5 times as many votes as a big state voter. None. Can you name any?[/quote]

Most Western countries have coalition style governments (see Europe) so it's very rare for one party to gain more than 50% of the vote. It's also quite possible for the largest party with the plurality of the vote to be locked out of government of the other parties can form a coalition. In Britain, which also has a FPTP system similar to the US congressional elections, there are definitely times when one party wins the most seats but the "losing" party actually received more votes cast.

The leaders of most western countries aren't directly elected by their voters. The British Prime Minister is elected by his/her MPs, not the voters. Angela Merkel also isn't elected directly by her voters. You'll find it's the leader of the biggest party (usually in the coalition if there's one) that becomes the leader of the country, so you can very easily have a situation where the country's leader was only indirectly voted (via the party) by a third or even less of all votes cast.

Further, as you stated: "that's how every nation in the world works," there are many countries that are de facto dictatorships. China certainly doesn't have a voting democracy. Much of the Middle East operates under a dictatorship of some type. Or if it's ostensibly a democracy, the voting is known to be heavily rigged.

Last but not least, given that this election was a statistical tie, it could have just as easily swung the other way with Trump winning the popular vote and losing the EC to HRC, and you know fully well you'd be on here defending the EC....[/quote]

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