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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]How is LLIV worse?

There are no issues with transportation. Kids are in their neighborhood school. The number of AAP kids does not overwhelm the school. [/quote]

I am not the poster you asked, but I've seen this work at 2 different LLIV schools. What often happens is the LLIV class becomes the "smart" class. And when it is the same kids year after year, then absolutely all the kids in the grade know who is Level IV and who is not. Some schools mix for specials, etc. Our school also has math groupings where the kids in all classes change to a math class at their level, but what typically happens is a few kids go into the LLIV class for math.

Also, if there are not enough Level IV kids to have a full class, the rest of the class is principal placed in some fashion. It can get very ugly when some parents are resentful their kid is not in the LLIV class.

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+1. This, this and this. We moved, and I had one kid go LLIV and another do the Center. LLIV was far more toxic. The "smart class" was right there, front and center. It became a huge clique because kids could not be rotated each year. GE parents were pissed-- about who was in AAP, who was principal placed, that the "best" teacher at each grade level was the one who got AAP certified, that their DC's 3 BFFs were in the smart class and DC was left behind in GE,  that AAP always seems to develop a clique of mean girls, etc. The school went from a cohesive community to toxic in the three years after LLIV was introduced. The Center on the other hand-- the kids seemed to mix fine.  GE was normal. AAP was normal.  Rather than a handful of "special kids" there was a better balance.

I don't think all you LLIV advocates realize what you are getting yourselves into. [/quote]

You sound like you had a child in LLIV a long time ago and from what you describe the center is just like that as well, it's just that you probably had fewer relations with the general ed families.

The new model, which the person from Chesterbrook described, is to have general ed children be able to take classes with AAP children for core subjects if they can handle it. Or to make the AAP program available to them through another teacher. The kids all switch for lunch, specials, homeroom, and in Wolftrap's case through science and social studies as well. So the kids are never just with AAP students on any given day. I know this can work at every LLIV center. Why can't it work then at a center school? Why can't the general ed kids be brought into core classes with the AAP students at center schools if they demonstrate aptitude at a center? Why can't the general ed kids have lunch, specials, and homeroom time with AAP students at a center?[/quote]

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