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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course all students benefit from high expectations and high level instruction. Lots of research has shown that people are influenced by others' expectations of them. Here's just one article: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB106815408551985600

Segregating kids into two distinct tracks that will last through high school and beyond (since it's so much easier to get into TJ from a center) based on test scores when a child is in 2nd grade is really harmful.[/quote]

Absolutely agree.  [b]Telling one group of kids that they don't have "potential" but the other group somehow does[/b], is one of the most damning things educators can do to kids.  ALL students have potential, for crying out loud.[/quote]

Please post a link to where this is stated to kids.  Thank you.[/quote]

All kids have potential but it is best nurtured in groups [b]where they can be with their own kind.[/b]  Does no good to be way behind the other kids in the class or be unable to keep up. That would be more damning.  [/quote]

[b]"THEIR OWN KIND"??  Wow.  How do you know what "kind" of kids my child should be with? [/b] What a moronic statement.[/quote]

Why do they have a varsity and an junior varsity. 
Why do some kids play in the concert orchestra 
grouping according to ability.  This is the real world Pollyanna.[/quote]

[b]No one knows what a child's innate abilities are until they've actually been given an opportunity to prove themselves.[/b]  You can't possibly compare intelligence or academic potential to athletic ability, especially at the age of seven.  And especially when kids trying out for sports teams are given the chance to demonstrate what they're capable of.  Also, you're talking about high school aged kids.  We're talking about second graders. Huge difference and the situations aren't at all comparable.   Nice try though. [/quote]

What do you cll the CogAT and teacher/AART recommendations? 
Starting even before second grade, some kids move to the front of the class, some lag behind.  And as I pointed out above -- if a child does;t get in one year, he or she has another chance the following year, and several more times before 8th grade, if they are motivated enough to seek out this "opportunity to prove themselves."[/quote]

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