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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How the h@ll is a test that uses shapes and figures, like the NNAT, biased??

Bunch of whiners claiming victim status. All you have to do is cry raaaaaacist and you get your way[/quote]

I can't speak to the NNAT, but on the CogAT this year, one of the questions was a picture of a score board, a basketball hoop, and "a box with a line missing from the top and a line sticking down from the bottom".  In other words, a football goal, but my daughter had been clueless about what the picture was supposed to be (probably because she has never watched a football game).   A soccer goal seems like it would have been a more universal picture.  I'm sure you are going to come up with some snarky remark about how I'm bitter she missed a question, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are small things that can skew a test result that have nothing to do with a child's intelligence.  I'm not concerned about my daughter, but I am concerned about her classmates whose parents aren't able to provide for them in the same ways that I am for her, and how we as a society can support those families and children so that everyone is able to have a chance at the best outcomes possible.  Programs like this seem like an excellent effort to test out a theory and see if it is something that can make a small difference toward that.[/quote]

How in the world do you know what the questions were?[/quote]

I know about that particular question because my daughter came home from school and talked about it, because it stumped her.[/quote]

This is a common phenomenon but one that folks are often reluctant to recognize.  There's a famous example from the New York City gifted tests that was something like sheep:flock as ship:?????

The correct answer was regatta, but a high SES is insanely more likely to know the answer to that question than a low SES kid.  Much like the answer your daughter got wrong is much easier for kids for whom "American" culture is native.

Of course, we know that giftedness doesn't just occur in "American" kids, or high income kids.  But folks on this thread casually talk about why should they pay for parents who don't prepare their children, as if parenting should be the test here, not giftedness.  [/quote]

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