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Which is why most people don't do it.  Its only privates around here and some higher SES publics.[/quote]

And I always wonder about redshirting complaints from people who send their children to a private school. This is a school that you choose to pay a lot of money to, so that your child can go there! If you're so upset about its redshirting policies, why are you doing that?[/quote]

I think parents who are new to the environment don't realize it's the trend.

Additionally, for me a lot of my frustration is based on Kindergarten now being inappropriate for the age of children who are meant to attend. We're not graduating high school seniors who are more educated. In fact, our colleges are saying they are having to provide more and more remedial classes. So what's the point of making the early grades age inappropriate if there is no long term benefit? If HS had become the new BA/BS, then I could perhaps understand. But it hasn't. It's gone the other direction.[/quote]

There are more remedial classes because more people are attending college. Those people probably wouldn't have gone to college in the past.[/quote]

That's one reason, yes. Even with that, however, we're not getting colleges saying how wonderful their applicants are nowadays. How well the overly-academic focus of the early grades is paying off. Because it's not. We're forcing our youngest children to perform at levels that are inappropriate and spend their days in classroom environments that are inappropriate, and at the end of the day our HS graduates are no better off than they were when Kindergarten was about learning how to share with friends and tie your shoes.

We're ending up with environments where parents of perfectly average children feel a need to redshirt them if their birthday is within three months of the cut off date, simply so they won't be labeled a bad child or a stupid child when the child is simply a perfectly average child. Additionally it makes the environment that much more toxic for SN children who even if redshirted are still being held to higher standards than are appropriate for the stated age the environment is intended to be for. No one, except the children who are gifted academically and socially, is benefiting. And even those children are being failed later in their education when the high standards they were held to in early elementary fall away to easily attainable average standards in later grades.[/quote]

Agree on the kindergarten, but I think colleges are expecting more out of students than before too and employers expecting more of graduates. IT's a ripple effect. There are more graduate students these days as well and more jobs specifically for graduate students. I haven't found a lot of studies on whether or not college graduates are doing better than in the past. It's certainly harder to get into some of the highly selective colleges these days. This paper describes pretty well what trends people are seeing in the US population in terms of academics. http://www.livescience.com/37095-humans-smarter-or-dumber.html[/quote]

Here's an article I was finally able to find about employers and college grads. It says employers are looking for more soft skills, but I wonder if it's also that getting a job is much harder now than it was in the past. You now have to go through a series of interviews and probably have more soft and technical skills than before. You also more than likely needed to have had an internship. Again it goes back to employers not wanting to train new hires. Based on the old timers in my company, these people do not have better soft skills than new hires.
http://business.time.com/2013/11/10/the-real-reason-new-college-grads-cant-get-hired/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-08-22/is-on-the-job-training-still-worth-it-for-companies

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