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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How [b]dare[/b] Virginia idolize a rebel[/quote]

That's the Roman goddess Virtus, who I'm pretty sure did not command any forces to attack the North in the Civil War.

The expression "Sic Semper Tyrannis" originally came from the assassination of Caesar and was in widespread use long before American history.[/quote]

Actually it probably dates back to the assassination of King Tarquin (the last roman king before the founding of the republic). The point is that the seal venerates rebels. The slogan was also shouted by john Wilkes booth.

I think the bigger point here is that, like it or not, the guy was the president and commander in chief of the confederate states of America. He led a failed secession, yes, but he wasn't an Adolfo Hitler figure that rounded up Jews and shoved them I to gas chambers. Even a terrible president deserves a few roads named after him. [/quote]

No, Davis wasn't responsible for killing 6 million Jews, but he [i]was[/i][u][b] responsible for killing 620,000 Americans in the Civil War.  And for no reason other than to defend and promote slavery[/b]  I think he does not deserve to be venerated in any way, shape or form.  Even General Lee turned his back on every veneration and symbol of the confederacy after the war ended.  It is well documented that after the war, Robert E. Lee did not want confederate flags, uniforms, or symbols anywhere in his presence.  He had far better insight and reasoning for this than any person alive today.[/quote]

That's a gross oversimplification of the causes of the civil war. There were a multitude of causes that lead to war. It is simply objectively untrue to claim that the war happened "for no reason other than to defend and promote slavery."  Also, like Lee, Jeff Davis was a confederate general at the beginning of 1861. He wanted to serve as the head of the army but was elected president over the states that had already seceded. He sent negotiators to Washington to discuss the purchase of federal bases located in the south but was turned away. I'm not sure that its fair to call the confederates "traitors" because they were no longer part or the United states when the war began. [/quote]

Slavery was definitely a central cause of the Civil War.  The mythical "states rights" argument is a deflection as it really was just about the right of states to continue practicing slavery - and not just to continue the practice but to expand the practice of slavery into the western territories.  That is well documented, i.e. Bleeding Kansas.  This central issue of slavery was fervently debated in Congress prior to the secession of the southern states, even coming to the point of physical violence (such as when South Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks attacked Massachussetts Rep. Charles Sumner and viciously beat him bloody and unconscious on the floor of Congress with a cane after Sumner gave an anti-slavery speech - with other pistol-wielding southern Congressmen holding the others back from helping Sumner as Brooks repeatedly beat him).

As for purchase of federal territories in the South, the South decided they would just [i]take them by force[/i].  The South fired the first shot, made the first attack, at Fort Sumter.  So much for the mythical "War of Northern Aggression" bullshit as well.[/quote]

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