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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There are many beautiful things about the Catholic church and some people are able to see them and stay with the church and not be bothered very much, if at all, by pedophilia cover-ups or anything else negative that the church has done, or will do.

These people of deep faith are hard to understand by people who seem to have lost the gift of faith, or who have shut it or thrown it away.

Perhaps if people who have given up on their faith spent more time in Church, their faith would return. Why not give it a try?[/quote]

If a priest raped your child, would you return to the church?

If the answer is no, then you're a fucking hypocrite like the rest.

When you support the church, you approve of the way they handled the cover up.  And your Cardinal's Appeal $$$, did just that  by making their lives comfortable. [/quote]

I guess your first point is what I don't understand the logic behind. If a teacher in another school raped a student, you would have to pull your child from school? Let's even say it is a private school where the rape occurred, since then you would have a choice and are actively paying versus a public school pay it taxes and less of a choice due to school boundaries. I'm not sure if that logic follows that the entire student body should stop going and the school should be shut down.  You could use the example of Boy Scouts, police officers, social workers. 
We don't even have to be defenders of Catholicism to see that doesn't make a lot of sense. Fine, don't be Catholic because you don't believe. But to suggest the church should disband is bizarre.
And less sense if you are talking about parishes 5 states away in the US. So the millions of Catholics in South America should leave their church?
We are talking members in the billions. [/quote]

My son is old enough for Boy Scouts.  He's not joining as we hate their stance on gays. enough about that one and so much for their "Duty to God"

I can have control over my children in their public school.  I've taught them about stranger danger and they know never to stay alone with with a teacher, and if that's the case, sit by an open door where people can see you.  I can step into the PTA and make my points known. I can email the teachers and administrators.  I can participate as a parent - AND as an educator myself.  I am part of the community.

When you enter a church, however, you don't expect your leader, a representative of God, to molest your child.  It's using religion to lure children into someone's sick world.  Yes, people in education have done it.  neighbors, funny uncles, coaches - I get it.

But to indoctrinate a child into a religion - to fill his/her head with beliefs that some supernatural being will take care of you during and after life - and THEN to see that child raped (innocence gone) is the most hypocritical and sick situation ever.  What do you say to a child after that?  "Father Peter is sorry for what he's done to you.  Please forgive him."

And yes, I'd expect people to walk away, and many have.  I've had very devout friends leave the church b/c they were so disgusted by it all.  I can't imagine returning - especially IF it happened to a child in my congregation.  This was (and still is) an international problem.

I don't understand how anyone can have faith in the  LEADERS who have excused this sick behavior.  These are men of God!  Such a great God to allow child rape to be part of a religious institution, eh? Bravo, God!

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