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[quote=Anonymous]OP - do you provide a sleeping area where it's quiet, and the kids can't hear the adults talking, laughing, walking around?  When we stay at my sibling's house we sleep in the basement. It's not sound proofed.  We can hear people walking (even if it's light) above us, chatting, laughing, the tv, the furnace, *everything*.  When we visit them, no one sleeps well from all that noise.  I've tried putting our kids to bed at the usual time 7:30 and 9pm (6 and 10), but they have a hard time falling asleep and have complained that they can hear us talking and laughing.  It's hard both ways.

But, I get up with my kids in the morning and don't expect others to parent my kids even if I let them stay up a little bit later because it's otherwise too loud to sleep.  If the adults are expecting others to take care of their kids in the mornings, then yes, they are being irresponsible and are probably a bit lax in their parenting to begin with.

When we're on vacation there are lots of things I let my kids do that I otherwise wouldn't let them do: eat ice cream everyday, watch more tv than usual, and sleep a bit later.  If we're at someone else's house, I expect my kids to be mindful of others in terms of noise and general mayhem, but if they are not being obnoxious, then I would let them stay up later than usual because they're on vacation, too.

So, if you want little kids to go to sleep earlier, then make sure you provide a quiet place where they can do so without hearing the adults having fun because that's going to be distracting for little kids, and they won't be able to sleep, and that means they will be hanging out with you. [/quote]

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