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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't know about other industries, but in the high tech industry, during the interview process, they are asking a lot more brain teaser type questions rather than straightforward programming questions.

For example, at Google, even for engineering jobs, they will ask brain teaser questions.  You have to answer verbally.  They are not looking for the "correct" answer, but rather looking at how your thought process works (kind of like how some of the CC standards want to see thought process worked out), and how quickly you can think on your feet.

I don't know much about SN kids who are nonverbal.  Would such kids have issues dealing with these types of interview questions?

My point is that even in some STEM fields, verbal and written communication skills are quite important.  So, even if your SN nonverbal child is good at math, but not good at verbal skills, that may still be a problem when they go into the working world.   I only know about the tech field because that's what I am in. Maybe other STEM fields are different. [/quote]

What kind of alternative reality are you living in?  Do you even have a non-verbal child?  You sound very strange arguing about a non-verbal child getting a job in stem.  If your child is non-verbal as an adult, they aren't going to be graduating or getting a job.    [b] Instead of making this about you and your lifestyle, lets focus on the real need to get these kids verbal and comprehension[/b].[/quote]
OK, but I think that's for a different thread.  There's a real need. No one disputes the need.  People have stated that these kids need IEPs.

My post was in response to another post about how a nonverbal kid who used to do well in math before all the CC "explain your thinking" standards came, and how now, this nonverbal kid is "failing" math.  The point was that today, more and more high tech companies require you to be able to "explain your thinking" during the interview process, and so even math minded kids will need to be able to verbalize their thinking.

If your child is that severely nonverbal, then I'm guessing your child has more issues in school than just "explain your thinking in math.  CC standards or not, such a child would need therapy, and no one's saying such a child shouldn't get therapy.  What the heck are you railing about?[/quote]

Do you have a child with language issues?  I'm assuming no by your rant.  No one cares about worrying about how a child will do in an interview.  Most young kids cannot articulate well about a "Stem" topic.  This isn't about STEM. The topic is common core and SN kids.  You aren't addressing either one.  This isn't about getting a child therapy either.  Yes, my child has been in therapy for years - intensive for years.  That has nothing to do with this topic.

And, no, right now my child does not need an IEP.  He does just fine in a small regular classroom with supportive teachers (he started talking at 5).  He cannot answer some basic questions due to the language issues and does get marked down unfairly.  But, at this point, I'm just grateful my kid is talking.  I have no issue with the Common Core as a set of guidelines.  I think we need standard guidelines for our schools.  I am not a fan of how it is implemented and some of it makes no sense but if shown correctly, most kids, including mine get it.  Many of the teachers are struggling to teach, especially the math.  The class sizes are too large for individual attention.  And, many kids like mine often fall through the cracks as teachers just don't understand the language issues, which is why we supplement at home (including buying the books so we can do them ahead of time).

The main issue is kids with language and other disorders process differently.  Very few people truly understand that and know how to work with it.  Your average teacher does not.  It would be great if we had separate MERLD and apraxia classrooms, like they do for autism, but I'd be hesitant to place my child in one as my child isn't struggling academically for the most part and thrives on being challenged.

My husband is an IT guy.  His company, against his and others recommendations regularly hires those not qualified.  The IT field is fully of quirky.  Quirky is ok.. its can you produce the work they need that matters.[/quote]

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