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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Or is that islamophobic? Will this thread get whacked due to PC? [/quote]

Ok, let's just for the moment agree to use that terminology.

What do you want now? Should we exterminate all Muslims? Is that where you're going with this?

You seem to be determined to extract some concession for something. What?[/quote]

What's with these giant leaps? Has anyone suggested extermination?

Perhaps one merely wants to distinguish between the (sadly) many different brands of terrorism in the world?

You people who are hell bent on picking apart every statement and assigning malicious intent are exhausting.

Did you see the backlash aimed at Ruby Rose for posting that we should pray for the whole world? People flipped out and said it was an anti-Paris comment...or that she was sympathizing with the terrorists. Neither was true. She merely meant that the whole world is pretty screwed up right now and maybe prayers for everyone is warranted. But lots of people felt compelled to assign a malicious intent to her simple comment of praying for the world. WTF? 
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No, the framing of the question was extremely hostile. It is not an innocent question all -- it was totally loaded and it seems [i]extremely[/i] important to OP that we use this terminology. Jeff's response was perfect -- it's probably best not to since it invites Islamaphobia and ignores the fact that Muslims are leading the fight AGAINST Islam. It also, by the way, ignores the fact that the world's most populous Muslim country isn't even in the Middle East, but rather in the Pacific Ocean.

So, to suggest that OP "merely wants to distinguish between the ... many different brands of terrorism in the world" is idiotic. It doesn't distinguish at all. There's ISIS, there's Al-Qaeda, there was Chechen... Lumping them all as "Islamic terrorists" actually BLURS the very real distinctions. So, that's a case for NOT using the terminology.

What I did in my response is challenge OP's premise. OP is a bad person -- we see that constantly here. OP is clearly not very bright, not very clever, and is transparently repugnant. We have a duty at every turn to challenge OP's idiotic prattles. [/quote]

While I generally agree with you, I'm not too terribly concerned about blurring the lines. Here's why:

1. I think they want credit for their acts of violence...so why give it to them? If ISIS wants the media to credit them for this, why give it to them? Heck, why not say it was an act of violence carried out by an angry group of Oompa Loompas just to mess with them?

2. When numerous terrorist groups have several common denominators--like using Islam to incite violence against the western world--then it might be in the western world's best interest to underscore the common denominator and admit that we are in fact at war with an ideology. Ideology. An ideology that has been tweaked by a number of different groups, but the bottom line is the same: death to the infidels, death to America, death to the western world.

If a group prides itself on it's interpretation of Islam and has declared jihad on infidels, then why isn't it fair to call them Islamist terrorists? They aren't environmental terrorists. They aren't Christian terrorists (like those who bomb abortion clinics). They are Islamist terrorists.

Here's where language and context are helpful: by labeling terrorists (bad guys) as Islamist terrorists, you aren't labeling all Muslims as terrorists. Rather, you are adding an adjective to further describe the terrorist. Candidly, I have several more adjectives I'd prefer to add...[/quote]

+1. Some common sense, imagine that. [/quote]

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