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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Brent is a school full of rich white kids yet the scores are mediocre. There is also no middle school path. I would not listen to anyone that tells you to rely on Basis/Latin as those schools will be hard to get into by the time your LO reaches middle. For the same price or cheaper, you can move in Deal feeder. If you insist, I would pick LT for the diversity and better scores.[/quote] Greater "diversity" at LT than Brent? If you mean more low-income AA kids proportionately, yes, of course. If you mean more socioeconomic, international and racial diversity, absolutely not. My kid's class at Brent has four or five AA kids, several kids of Asian descent (one of whom speaks beautiful Chinese), a Latina (who speaks Spanish at home), and several European kids (who speak European languages at home; their parents work for international organizations with DC HQs, e.g. the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund). In LT for ECE, we didn't see that sort of diversity, far from it. Who cares about the silly test scores? In-boundary parents vote with their feet: Brent is more than half in-boundary, while LT is around 20%. LT doesn't really have a MS path either, unless you're OK with Stuart Hobson (with a student body that's less than 10% high SES/white in a catchment area that's at least two-third high SES/white in 2015). [/quote] [quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Brent is a school full of rich white kids yet the scores are mediocre. There is also no middle school path. I would not listen to anyone that tells you to rely on Basis/Latin as those schools will be hard to get into by the time your LO reaches middle. For the same price or cheaper, you can move in Deal feeder. If you insist, I would pick LT for the diversity and better scores.[/quote] Greater "diversity" at LT than Brent? If you mean more low-income AA kids proportionately, yes, of course. If you mean more socioeconomic, international and racial diversity, absolutely not. My kid's class at Brent has four or five AA kids, several kids of Asian descent (one of whom speaks beautiful Chinese), a Latina (who speaks Spanish at home), and several European kids (who speak European languages at home; their parents work for international organizations with DC HQs, e.g. the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund). In LT for ECE, we didn't see that sort of diversity, far from it. Who cares about the silly test scores? In-boundary parents vote with their feet: Brent is more than half in-boundary, while LT is around 20%. LT doesn't really have a MS path either, unless you're OK with Stuart Hobson (with a student body that's less than 10% high SES/white in a catchment area that's at least two-third high SES/white in 2015). [/quote] I would be disinclined to give much weight to the thoughts of someone who is bitching about Brent being full of rich white kids. Picking one school over another based on a simplistic metric such as overall DCCAS scores from one year (2013-14) is also among some of the dumbest advice I've seen on DCUM. Setting aside the fact that testing cohorts vary year to year, you also would need to drill down into how each grade and racial subgroup performed to try and draw anything approaching a meaningful conclusion, if you're so inclined. I happen to think it's a waste of time and energy. As for the "diversity" issue, Brent and LT are approximate mirror images of one another. Brent is roughly 70 percent white and 20 percent AA, while Ludlow is roughly 70 percent black and 20 percent white. So which is more "diverse" under this myopic metric. Both are good schools that continue to improve and implying one or the other is mediocre is a sign of dishonesty, lack of intelligence or possibly both. [/quote] My concern is not so much diversity but rather expectations. It's not about LT having slightly better test scores last year and Brenr having better year before. Brent has a whopping 11% FARM population and barely has test scores in the low 70s. LT is Title 1 with slightly better scores. I know many people don't put too much weight on scores but when schools like Stoddert, Key, Mann, Murch etc have similar FARM population and has scores 20 points higher. That is not minimal. Don't people want to know what's going on at Brent (or what's not going on)? It's quite alarming no matter how you look at it.[/quote] Your purported concern about expectations at Brent is interesting but based on misinformation. Test scores for 2013-14 weren't barely in the low 70s unless you fail to account for kids testing as advanced. It would indeed be remarkable if schools like Stoddart, Key and Mann - or any school for that matter - was testing at or above 100 percent. Brent parents and those still paying eomething of a premium to move in-bound despite the current middle school situation know exactly what is going on in the school. It's the reason there's a PK waiting list for in-bound siblings this year. I'm sorry you find any of this so mysterious. But please, do us all a favor and take your perverse agenda somewhere else. [/quote] Ok sorry, high 70s. Does that still not bother you? You choose to fight over 5 points but not care to address why there is such a huge gap in attainment. Brent has 11% FARM but over 20% of students are not proficient. Shepherd has the same scores but triple the FARM rate, Ross has 15 point higher scores and triple the FARM rate. Why does this not concern you?[/quote] Still tilting at windmills? [/quote]
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