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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you're hot, you'll get laid. If you "treat a woman like a person," she might become your friend. Which is fine, if you're looking for friends.

If you are looking for sex and not friendship, don't become her friend because that's dishonest and makes you one of the not-nice "nice guys" complaining about the friend zone.

Negs don't work very often, but for guys who aren't hot, they're probably better for getting laid than just being friendly. Without the neg, the not-hot guy is probably just going to get ignored. [b]With the neg, the woman is a lot more likely to at least engage him (see above, the PP who engages with "did you just neg me?"). Most of the time that engagement isn't going to lead to anything positive[/b], but there is at least the chance the not-hot guy can leverage that into something more. The ignored guy has no chance. And the pseudo-friend is probably even creepier than the guy doing the negging.

So, really, the options for the not-hot guy who isn't particularly looking for a friendship are limited no matter what. If there are PSAs for this guy that don't involve involuntary celibacy or negging, I'd enjoy hearing them.

This is just academic for me. I've been married for 20 years. I felt mostly invisible to women in my teens and early twenties and only got some traction when women my age were looking for a stable guy to have a long term relationship with. I had plenty of friends but not a lot of sex. Wondering what I could or should have done differently at that point. [/quote]

So you're happy just being mercilessly shot down by a woman?  That counts as an accomplishment for you?

Wow.  I think you need to work on your self esteem...[/quote]

Being ignored = 0% chance at getting laid.
Negging = 0.5% chance or greater if he's cute, funny, etc.

Also he's right in that the hanger on friend trying to get laid is super creepy. ..

With so many women here saying guys who aren't getting laid are worthless, then what else do you think guys will do?[/quote]

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