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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've been approached plenty of times by christians telling me to let jesus save me.  I can't remember one time a muslim approached me and told me I should convert...[b]not once[/b].  I guess that explains who is spreading that hateful crap about going to hell if you dont convert[/quote]

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It's clear around the world that once Islam becomes a certain large percentile of the population, the rate of conversion or 'disappearance' of other faiths goes sky high.

It's not like that here in the U.S. which is one of the reasons the vast majority of Muslims here are peaceful.  Something goes awfully wrong though when the numbers get high, I'm not sure why that is.  The larger the numbers, the greater the power of the radicals.[/b]

That said, I have had 2 Muslims talk to me about Islam, give me a Koran and a book that explains it for lay people and tell me they are praying for me to find their correct path.  I am close friends with someone they are also friends with so I do think they felt comfortable with me enough to say that though.

That plus, I'm not of an Abrahamic faith so even jizya wouldn't save me from slaughter in their eyes.

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We can discuss conspiracy theories all day, but its not productive and theres no proof on either side so what is the point. It sounds like you're assuming that it has something to do with violence? But really there's not much to support that theory. It can also be said that crusaders spread christianity early on by slaughtering the people that were not feeling up to converting. There are radicals in every religion, christianity as well. I don't know how this thread went from &quot;historical artifact discovered&quot;--&gt; &quot;trying to convert non muslims is the DMV area&quot;--&gt; &quot;global conspiracy theories&quot;....somebody please let this thread die, my brain hurts.[/quote]

I don't mind letting this thread die, just don't state these are simply conspiracy theories.  While Christianity has had it's fair share of historical religious killings mixed in with conversion efforts, those things are not occurring today, in [u]current events[/u], thus incorporating into the conversations of today are perfectly valid.  You can falsely accuse me of conspiracy theories, but the violence against minority religions in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Syria, etc do not equate to conspiracies.

I also do not believe the majority of Muslims are radicals, certainly not.  I stated that for whatever reason, which is not a conspiracy, that when there becomes a large or majority percentage of Muslims in one nation or area, the radicals (who are much fewer in number) end up in the position of gaining power which flips the area into a violent mess.  That often times violent mess is also used against fellow Muslims as well as minority faiths.  It is accompanied by conversion efforts.  You don't have to believe me, you just have to assess what is going on in many parts of the world currently.

Quite frankly, I don't agree with proselytizing commandments of [i]any[/i] religion.  They too often lead to wars of political and monetary domination under the guise of religious sanctimony.

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I guess we will just have agree to disagree. I think the violence and oppression against minorities is just that, violence against minorities irrespective of the religion on either side. I think that is more human nature than anything else. The countries you list have been predominantly muslim for as long as I can remember so I can't speak to your theory that once the muslim population rises to a  certain point the others disappear. That being said there ARE minority populations there of other religions that have been stable for quite some time, and yes sometimes they do experience oppression because they are a minority. But I don't see that as any different than the muslim population that has to deal with violence in india because they are a minority. Or the asians that built the railroads during the gold rush (no islam there, just humans being humans). Thankfully that era has passed (for the most part) in developed countries, but even in the U.S if a muslim goes to one of the more conservative southern states and walks around the streets with a headscarf I guarantee you she is not going to feel welcome. People just don't like "different". Let's not forget the oppression of muslims in Israel, that's a huge one. Bulldozing peoples houses and evicting them to make room for people moving to Israel from abroad? The point is minorities are always oppressed throughout history, regardless of religion. You still see it overseas more frequently because there are undeveloped countries that are ruled by violence to begin with.    Sorry for the wall of text [/quote]

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