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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Religion is chance.

You were born into a Catholic family - chance.  You were born into a Protestant family.  You met the man of your dreams, and he decided to convert to Judaism for you.

It's not about a god coming down and change your views.  Whoever was around you from a young age on shaped your beliefs.

Had you been born in Iran, you might be a non-Muslim, but chances are you'd be a practicing Shi'i Islam.

chance
geography
upbringing

So which god is the REAL god, by the way?  [/quote]

Christians know -- even Christians who think good atheists go to heaven (and probably good Muslims and Jews too) believe that Jesus is the son of God who came to redeem us.[/quote]

Yes.[/quote]

So if Jesus came to redeem those who believe in him, how can people who don't believe in him go to heaven?[/quote]

They can't.

And then there are those who don't even know about him.

all going to hell - all of them, despite their squeaky clean lifestyles[/quote]

That's not what we're taught in our Christian religion. Just so you know.[/quote]

Correct -- some liberal Christian denominations teach that good atheists and people of other non-Christian religions can go to heaven, but that's clearly not what Jesus taught and not why His Father sent him here.  Some, not all, modern-day Christians have watered down their religion to make more sense to them in a modern world, where good people are, or should be, rewarded with eternal life simply for for being good.   But Christianity is very clear that all that is needed to get into heaven is claiming Christ as your savior.   The worse criminal can enter the kingdom of heaven if they ask to be forgiven of their sins, no matter how heinous,  and accept Jesus.  The best atheist cannot go to heaven, because they refuse to do this.

Some liberal Christian denominations are watering down their beliefs to keep modern liberal people engaged in the good works of the church and to keep it financially afloat.  Can't blame them for that.  They can't deny the simple teachings of Jesus, however.  In the end, it's believe or burn.[/quote]

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