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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]I don't recall anyone saying she was an advocate for free speech, rather that her right to free speech, even if hateful or provocative, is protected--just like other hateful and provocative groups like Westboro. There is a big difference in claiming someone is an advocate for the 1st amendment and stating they are entitled to its protections. Moreover, supporting her 1st amendment rights is not the same as supporting her message.[/quote] Nobody has suggested that Geller does not have a right to express her Islamophobic views. That is [b]not in dispute[/b]. You keep repeating almost the same thing and I keep replying almost the same way. I don't see a reason to keep debating an issue that has no opposing side present in this forum. Setting aside Geller's right to express her views -- which, again is [b]not in dispute[/b] -- I find her views abhorrent. I would expect other decent people to find her views abhorrent. Posters who have expressed this view about Geller have been repeatedly criticized as having their "panties in a bunch", "misplaced angst", or simply being wrong because Geller is correct in her views. I am not debating, disagreeing with, or even discussing, Geller's "right" to her views, because that is [b]not in dispute[/b]. My issue is with those who believe criticizing Geller's abhorrent views is an attack on her freedom of expression. It is not. I have a further issue with people who think that Geller is correct in her views. I consider those individuals to be no different than someone who considers anti-Semites or racists correct in their views. [/quote] If you look at the post and picture immediately preceding the post you reference, you will see that post is in direct response to someone who snarkily says "Great "Free Speech" advocate you have here..." The response to that post and picture was most definitely on point to that post. [/quote]
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