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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think people pick immersion because they like the idea of being able to say, "My kid speaks two languages!"  It makes their kids sound smarter than your kid  :mrgreen: .[/quote]

I have yet to meet an immersion kid (from monolingual family) that actually speaks another language. Sure they can say many words and a few sentences but they aren't really fluent. When I look at the scores (specifically advanced and at LAMB and YY) I don't see kids excelling in the basics. My fear is that the language exposure is actually limiting them. I'm even looking at white only (aka non FARM) and not impressed. So I don't think you can get STEM at immersion (at least not in DC). And yes I have seen the studies (no need for links).[/quote]

"No need for links," or facts for that matter.  You sound willfully ignorant.[/quote]

How so? Let me elaborate. All of the "studies" I have seen have no bearing on DC kids. Any way you cut it, immersion in DC (save Oyster) is not all it's cracked up to be. More important to teach reading, math and science.[/quote]

I am not going to waste my time looking up YY, LAMB, and MV 's test scores and comparing them to oyster because (1) Oyster Adams does not teach grammar to their elementary students.  I think grammar is important, especially when learning a language, especially if you learned Spanish at home from your parents. (2) I would not put my kid in a school where yelling from teacher is condoned (3) I hate Woodley Park.  Before you say I can't afford it, I can, and I used to live there until I sold my house for a ton of money and bought in a nicer neighborhood.

These are my choices, which is why I wouldn't and never did try to enroll my kid at Oyster.  I am not trying to disparage the school, but Oyster has lots of problems (do a search) which even necessitated an overhaul and a new principal.  And again, it's never okay to yell at a child (also do a search on DCUM) especially if you're in a position of power such as a teacher or librarian.

And if you don't want immersion, don't bother with it!  There are tons of people who want a spot at these schools. I think it's great that you're not going with the conventional wisdom and leaving more spots for those of us who care.  [/quote]

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