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All this presumes thinking that the Bible is an authority.  If people don't think there's a reason to accept the Bible's authority, then directly them to bible verses is not very useful.[/quote]
This is not quite so. If you can look at all there is and conclude there's no God, is it not because you are unwilling to admit that there is a God who holds some authority over you? And can you deny that you sin? God gives us a foothold for faith. If, as one of the PP's previously stated, you are in sincere search of truth, you won't sidestep these two points, and if you are willing to humble yourself and admit there's a God and a moral law and that you break it, you will find this faith growing. Yes, I'm going to quote the Bible again, but God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.[/quote]

You don't KNOW this.

If you're using the Bible as your source, it's ONE source written by men.  How can you even think that God is talking directly to us?

gives grace to the humble - lol![/quote]

I realize that there may be several PPs participating in this discussion, but one or more of you seem obsessed with the idea that the Bible is written by men, and therefore fallible. But I would say that this is part of the truth and uniqueness of the Judeo-Christian God -- He himself became a man, walking among us, the human race. That is God reaching out to us, interacting with us, more than we can even comprehend. Yes, the 
Bible was penned by man, but it is the inspired word of God, again reaching out to us in concrete form that we can now see and touch. Do I believe that every comma, word and sentence is literally perfect and in our interpretation, completely without error? No. But the Bible is meant to be taken in its entirety and when you read it that way, you will see the unfolding of your own story -- your creation, your human failings, your craving for an answer and your search for meaning, and God's repeated attempts to come to you.[/quote]

If you read the Bible in its entirety you will see the work of ancient people in ancient times, if you look at it in an objective scholarly fashion.  If you look at it as a person of faith, you will see want you want to see.[/quote]
It seems that many people confuse technological development with moral understanding. So what if people wrote things in antiquity? The Bible isn't a science textbook; it's an account of the God's revelation to mankind of Himself and His plan of redemption. This is not dependent on telescopes and microscopes, none of which get you any closer to proving God does or doesn't exist. But the Bible does convict the heart of its sinfulness, which is a timeless thing. Mankind has never outgrown its sinfulness. This is why so many people hate the Bible, because it exposes their sinfulness. 
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Exactly. Plenty of things written in "antiquity" still hold true today. Have you ever read Aristotle or Plato? Shakespeare? The world did not begin the day we were born, you know![/quote]

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