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That WaPo article is from 2015.  It was written by a woman named Asra Nomani. She and I grew up together in the same neighborhood. She was a whack job as a preteen and she remains a whack job today. She is the laughing stock of the muslim majority. She was an angry kid and you can still sense the anger in her today.

I will say this - in the Kaba where Muslims do their Hajj pilgrimage, there are no clear delineations of where women and men pray. We walk around the kaba together. We may end up praying side by side, although we make sure to maintain a respectful distance between men and women. This is such a huge issue for Miss Nomani but it's a non issue in Islam. Whether you pray side by side or whatever will not prevent you from getting into the gates of Heaven. Her words, however, are often divisive and THAT is what incites Muslim fury. Funny that you would find one of her wacky articles. Or maybe not so funny?[/quote]

I'm having a really hard time seeing logic anywhere amidst all your accusations that Nomani is an angry whack job who incites fury. It sounds like you're saying:  the nature of women's religious lives is a "non-issue" because they'll get to heaven without side-by-side praying. Isn't that like saying, all other inequalities in peoples' mortal lives (like income, education) are "non-issues" because they'll get to heaven despite them? So those kids in NoVa that she mentions, and the Muslim woman preacher in California that she mentions, are whack jobs too? And then you go on to talk out of both sides of your mouth, writing as though the possibility of praying side by side with men on hajj, if you can afford it, is an example of what, progressivity maybe, at the same time that you're dismissing this as a non-issue -- which is it? FYI, there are strains of Judaism and Catholicism that allow women preachers, because apparently many people from different walks of life are starting to think that a woman's experience during worship is an important part if her religious life. I wasn't the one who first brought that article here, although I was impressed by it (and it's from two days ago, not 10 years ago). I'm also impressed by Nomani's article about a reform movement meant I had to wipe your spittle off my screen.[/quote]

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