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FWIW, I just read the WaPo link that somebody else posted (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/meet-the-honor-brigade-an-organized-campaign-to-silence-critics-of-islam/2015/01/16/0b002e5a-9aaf-11e4-a7ee-526210d665b4_story.html) although I had seen it yesterday and just skimmed. The PP who put it up wanted us to note the part about how Muslim apologists like you are more interested in honor than in questioning things that might need to be questioned. But there's something else about that piece that impressed me much more: it was written by a Muslim woman who's arguing for [b]questioning the role of Muslim women in the scriptures, in the mosque where she wants to pray side by side with men, and even their right to orgasms.[/b] Now there's a face of Muslim women that I can really get enthusiastic about![/quote]
Asra Nomani is questioning the right of Muslim women to orgasms? You sure?

Of all the Abrahamic religions, Islam seems the most protective of a woman's right to orgasms and sex.  In fact, in Shia Islam, most clerics support the ruling that not having sex with your wife for four months is a sin and grounds for divorce. [/quote]

It's in the article, in the context of female genital mutilation. Which is not an Islamic thing, as we know, but which does occur in many cultures that practice Islam.[/quote]
If it's not an Islamic thing, why bring it up? Do you want Islam to say, it isn't me then, and it isn't me now, either?

Copts in Egypt circumcize too, and no one's picking on them. [/quote]

For the people who are not aware- Copts are Egyptian Christians.  In the past, most of their community resided in the South of Egypt (Upper Egypt), where there is a very insular, patriarchal culture, and indeed, circumcision of females was practiced.  However, within the past few decades their numbers have dwindled as most people have gone (fled?) to metropolitan areas like Cairo and Alexandria, or gone abroad.  Maybe no one is picking on Copts on this issue because in the past few years they have suffered through pogroms, having their churches burned, bombed, and looted, murder, kidnapping, having their businesses burned and looted, being run over by military tanks, etc.  By their Muslim countrymen.  So maybe that is why people aren't spotlighting that particular community for criticism.  They have bigger problems, so to speak.

Meanwhile, my understanding is that the Church and other organizations are working very very hard to let people know that this practice is wrong.  It is hard to eliminate these kinds of practices that are ingrained in the culture.[/quote]

You're saying when disenfranchised people mutilate their womenfolk's genitals, it's OK?

Again - why take a common problem and hang it on Islam, which neither condones it, nor denies the woman her explicit right to sexual satisfaction in a marital relationship? I mean, poor Copts and all, but FGM is not a Muslim issue. It just isn't. And neither is the lack of right to orgasms.  Nomani made that bit up. [/quote]

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