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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Anyway, who here has said they don't "understand" the terrorist's grievances? That's a red herring. Even the occasional right wingnut who says they should go home if they don't like free speech laws isn't questioning the basic fact that they were offended. Everybody, absolutely everybody, feels victimized about something. FWIW, in France, you're free to abuse Hindus, Christians and Buddhists just as much or more as you can abuse Muslims. I can "understand" why gays want marriage rights even if it's not a personal issue for me. The "understanding" thing is a red herring, and a lazy red herring, that takes us away from the main issue about the whys and wherefores of vigilante justice vs. working within the system to change laws you don't like. [/quote] Agree. And the Charlie Hebdo issue had nothing to do with the killings in the Kosher grocery. This is about hatred-not hate speech. The cartoons were an excuse for killing. [/quote] It's also about getting attention among their own followers. Maybe, incidentally, about hate and about getting rapid change to France's laws. That's why, although we might agree that change is needed, we need to keep the onus squarely and firmly on the aggrieved groups themselves. I think that's why I so strongly dislike the argument that "well, they have a point, so we should fix it." Otherwise, what message does that send to that other aggrieved groups, for example gays who want to marry, who are working for slowly and patiently and within the system for change the las?[/quote]
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