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[quote=Anonymous] Because of my experiences, I have a real love/hate relationship with Christianity. I've had some wonderful moments in church where I felt really close to God. And I've had moments where church felt like some crazy manipulative cult. I struggle with my faith, but I believe in God and Jesus. I've learned, however, to be very wary about certain type of Christians. Overall though the positive things about Christianity outweigh the negative things. And I really admire Jesus. No person lives up to the ideals of Jesus. But these are still great ideals worth striving for. To love your enemy. To love your neighbor as yourself. To reach out to the poor and the marginalized. To see that each individual has intrinsic value in the eyes of God. Jesus's message is still very radical and subversive.[/quote]

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I know of many Christians who feel this way - they really love the ideals Jesus stands for.  My feeling is that you can love the ideals without worshipping the man, or any man. You can admire Jesus greatly without expecting him to provide you with eternal life.

People don't need all the trappings of organized religion to hold to Jesus' simple, timeless ideals. In fact, organized religion can become corrupt, like any group devised by humans.  Also, we now know that these ideals are intrinsic to human development and can be found to some extent in other animals and in human babies who have no understanding of organized  religion.

The worship part seems like a vestige of the past, when humans were routinely subjugated by rulers whom they were expected to worship and to a time when we thought gods lived right out of sight in the sky above us.[/quote]It's your opinion and you are more than entitled to say 'people don't need the trappings of organized religions."  That is your right, absolutely.  It us also the right of any and every one to believe as they deem fit and hold ideas that befit their thought process.
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You have been provided a forum to eloquently state your case and espouse your beliefs.  I trust you will allow people their beliefs and worship as they see fit without denigration.

I don't see why that's too much to ask.  Allow people to believe what they want which they will do anyway regardless of what you or I say.[/quote]

Actually, there's no way, besides asking to have posts removed,  to prevent people from expressing their opinions here.  No one but the moderator can "allow" or disallow it. And no one, in this country, at least, can not allow a person to practice their religion (or no religion).

But allowing an opinion  also means allowing disagreement with it which is different from  "denigration" - a pejorative term that can be hard to pin down, because what is disagreement to one person might be seen as denigration to another -- especially in the case of Christianity, which until recently, hasn't experienced so much open criticism from non-believers.  In contrast, non-believers have, until recently, silently endured the criticism of Christians (and in some cases have been burned at the stake for it).[/quote]

So this is all about comeuppance for believers. Got it.[/quote]

Does it feel like comeuppance?  It's simply an explanation of why a believer might not be used to dissent.  Was it comeuppance when Blacks and women expected to be treated equally?[/quote]

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