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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] The Quran has numerous examples of different rights afforded to men versus women. So why would muslims feel the need to twist its interpretation to make it palatable to nonmuslims? It is what it is . To us, its a thoughtful and just system that takes into consideration the inherent differences between men and women. As a muslim woman, I have never felt oppressed. Muslim women do not perceive inequality in our system at all. If men have greater rights in one area but also greater responsibilities and expenses, to us it balances itself out resulting in a very equitable system. To us, its a bit misleading to describe that system as unequal because you failed to mention men have more expenses and financial responsibilities. Sorry if you felt we intentionally lied to you. We didn't and we have no desire to proselytize here. We just find it misleading to paint our belief system as oppressive or unequal. But I think you will be hard pressed to find any muslim women that will use the term inequality when she feels she is living in an equitable system. [/quote] I'm sure you're very sincere in your understanding of Islamic rules for women being equal. I'm equally certain you're sincere when you say you don't feel oppressed (although I have to point out that you live in the US and not under sharia law). But this makes the question even more germane: why on earth did you call it "equality" to an audience who--as you've admitted you are fully aware--understand "equality" to mean something very different. That's what sounds like you're twisting things around.[/quote] What I mean is, if you're proud of Islamic rules about women, and I'm sure you're sincere in this -- then why keep describing them in a way that gives the appearance of misrepresenting them? Why describe them in a way that you know, as you've said you know, will be misinterpreted by DCUM readers? Also, why do you never bring up the actual laws yourself? Instead other posters need 20 pages to drag them out of you. Why not just say, "In Islam, equality means something different. Yes, the rules about inheritance, divorce, testimony... are different for women, and here's how.... But we don't think this difference is bad because the legal rights are offset by commensurately different responsibilities for men and women." If you said that, nobody would need to drag you through 20 pages to find out what the legal rights are. Nobody would need to engage in debates about whether or not we should all have understood the Muslim meaning of the word "equality" whenever you use it.[/quote] I did say exactly that. I said Islam does not promote equality (not in western sense); it promotes justice. But you need to understand that practicing muslims here live in a completely different mindset. The poster arguing with us said abstaining from fornication and adultery were oppressive to her. This was quite stunning for me to read, as a Muslim woman. It goes so against our way of thinking and I can not fathom abstinence as oppressive. I live a different life so my views are completely different. In the same way that poster thinks abstinence is oppressive, she perceives the absence of linear rights between men and women as inequality. We have a totally different perspective and for us to say our religion oppresses us with unequal rights would be to utter a misleading statement.[/quote]
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