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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The idea that God must be all flowers and gum drops is a very childish one. At least to me. How else can people be tested if not through trial and tribulations? Challenges in life sometimes mold us to become stronger individuals with better character. This is the purpose of life. To learn about ourselves and about love.[/quote]

I agree with this. I've never understood the concept of a completely benevolent and merciful God. Not saying that I'm an atheist, but I agree it's infantile to believe in a totally "good" God. It makes much more sense that God has a dangerous, tumultuous, aggressive side - particularly if you believe in a God that is omnipotent and omniscient. The "Devil" has always seemed like a concept that's an excuse - for not wanting to accept that God that had a "bad" side (which God has to have, to create a Devil in the first place), or maybe misplacing human responsibility. [/quote]

I also agree with the first PP, but in a slightly different way. I've never understood the argument that God should have created legions of robots. By robots, I mean perfect people who always do His bidding by behaving perfectly in their perfect lives.

Trials and tribulations are what make us human. Failures, trials, and learning from these are what cause us to grow as human beings. I don't agree with the PP who said that you can grow as a person by reading books; I think people learn mostly by experience, at least for non-academic things like behavior and character. Maybe some day we'll reach the point where we implant "character" chips in toddlers' brains, but I personally think that would make us less human.

FWIW, I think the devil takes the form of our own bad impulses, not some guy with horns and a pitchfork. Also, the hypothetical dead baby other posters keep talking about is, in the Christian version, now in a better place where suffering has ended.

(For the PP above, [b]God didn't "create" the devil in the traditional telling, at least the Paradise Lost-type version. The devil was a fallen angel who used his free will to try to seize some of God's power for himself.[/b])[/quote]

Either God knowingly created the Devil, or isn't omniscient/all-knowing. God cannot be both. [/quote]

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