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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=MarleySkye840]Any time someone dies, we typically mourn them. JR was not a murderer, rapist, or terrorist, she was just a "mean girl". I put that in quotes because I think she was actually a nice person in real life but her schtick was to be a rude bitch for laughs.

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except she wasn't funny.

also, if you ever saw her weak attempt at a (very short lived) talk show, one of the guests was a school girl getting bullied in school.  the kid talked about how awful the other girls were--name calling, calling her fat.   she was oozing sympathy for this kid, but she was a first class hypocrite.[/quote]

Oh, you are the authoritative judge of humor?  Different people have different senses of humor and it is rare that a comedian appeals to everyone.  Joan Rivers was extremely popular.  You can judge by the fact that she had such a long and lucrative career.  She was still doing stand-up comedy and shows until her death.  She had events lined up that had to be canceled/postponed when the first news that complications had occurred.  She was still popular and in demand.

The fact that she was a regular fill-in host for the Tonight Show in Johnny Carson's era says that a lot of people found her quite entertaining.  Also, if you saw her as a talk-show host doing interviews instead of stand-up, you would see a different side of her.  There, she was a very nice.  Don't conflate her personality as a comedian with her personality as a person.  Sometimes a person's "work persona" is different from their private persona.  This is like confusing an actor in character with who they are in private.

But more to the point, the reason that she is considered such an icon is how she changed the perception of female comedians.  Before Sara Silverman and Tina Fey or Whoopi Goldberg and Ellen Degeneres, and even Gilda Radner, Jane Curtin, Lorraine Newman, Lily Tomlin, and many other classic comedians, Joan Rivers paved the way in the 1950's for women to break into the male entertainment world of comedy.  When she started, comedy was much raunchier.  Look at the comedy of the 1950's, it was much cruder than the comedy of today.  And she was trying to be one of the first women to be recognized in that male-dominated career.  Many, many women owe her a lot for her breaking gender barriers in entertainment.[/quote]

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