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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]As humans, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to lay down one's life for another.  For Catholics, the crucifix is a constant reminder that Jesus made that sacrifice for all of mankind.

On a personal note, for me it's incredibly humbling (the sacrifice), comforting (the love) and joyful (the hope) all at once. [/quote]

Jesus is not the only human being who lay down his life for others -- and most of the rest of them are forgotten -- and they die forever - no resurrection or bodily ascension into heaven or sitting at the right hand of the father for them.  [b]If they were catholics who died with a mortal sin on their souls, they'd go straight to hell, no matter the altruism of their death.[/b][/quote]

Please cite the Catechism where that is described.[/quote]

I can't cite the where in the Catechism it states it but it is what old line Catholics believed - and also why it was necessary to go to weekly Mass - so if you died that week, you had a chance of going to Purgatory instead of Hell.  Of course, daily Mass is even better because then you know you have a better chance of dying in grace.  Of course all of this is man-made and not in the Bible which makes me scratch my head about Catholicism.[/quote]

Many of the Catholic rules are not bible-based. but let's face it, some of the pronouncements in the Bible are outrageous or at least silly and not suitable for any set of useful guidelines for living.[/quote]

But you have to give the Catholic Church for creating the most rules that it insists on that are the truth that are not in any way bible-related:  Celebate priests; priests being the only intercession to God; confession; Saints; the rule that the Saint must have performed two miracles; Mary worship; Limbo; purgatory; paying for masses to get the dead out of purgatory . . . and the list goes on.[/quote]

Yeah -- the extra biblical stuff has been a real money-maker for the Church [/quote]

Yes, indeed!  Many of the practices started as money-makers for the monasteries.  And it gave the  Catholic Church more power over the citizenry.  A lot of the practices started during and after each plague (1330 - 17th century).  In the 1330-1337 plague more than 1/3 of Europe's population died (25 million).  The Catholic Church created a number of its practices during those years because the populace was desperate for any cure and would pay for anything.  The image of Hell created by Dante's Inferno (1331) was also used by the C. Church to frighten the congregations into paying indulgences for the dying and the dead.  The practice of paying for Masses continues to this day.[/quote]

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