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[quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous] You're missing my point -- which is that the millions (countless really) of people throughout history who have been displaced and whose countries have been redefined under their feet have not resorted to endless terrorism and war as a response to that. But you are using it to justify violence against Israel that will never end, which in turn means the killing of innocent Palestinian civilians, including children. That is an insane response IMO.[/quote] I'm not sure where you studied history, but there are plenty of examples of people fighting after they have been either displaced or occupied. Right, now Gaza and the West Bank are occupied and are fighting for independence. At one time, the US fought for independence. The Irish used armed struggle to gain independence from Great Britain. Kashmiris struggle even now. Pakistan and India fought multiple wars. Africa is nearly drowning in the blood of conflicts in which displacement was one provocation. [/quote] I'm coming at this from the vantage point of an American. America is where people go when they can no longer live where they are from. Like most Americans, my heritage is a mixed bag of people from all over. Most Americans have ancestors who came here to make a better life for themselves and their children because where they lived was intolerable. They didn't dig their heels in and bomb the hell out of other people. They came here. I don't know how anyone who understands the American psyche can be moved by the arguments of the Palestinians. It does not justify their violent provocation against Israel IMO.[/quote] Do I undertand correctly that your solution is the mass migration of Palestinians to the United States? [/quote] Ha ha, no, I must not be expressing myself very clearly. I'm saying that as an American -- and by that I mean, the America that embraces people from all over the world who come here because they are displaced or are seeking a better life for themselves, the America in which almost everyone was displaced from somewhere at some point, the America which is in a constant state of flux with people and cultures changing the mix -- I see nothing in the Palestinian argument that justifies their continued violence and provocation against Israel. Their reasons why, IMO, do not justify the mess they're making of their own situation. The violence is not Israel attacking them out of the blue -- it is in response to their continued provocation. And their continued provocation is because the country that is Israel was created and now exists where they want Palestine to exist. Well, I don't get it. We have all different kinds of people coming here and changing our neighborhoods and our culture all the time. We deal. We adapt. We embrace it. (At least I was taught to.) This is life in America. It doesn't belong to any one "kind" of person. So as an American with that perspective, I don't get what is so special about the Palestinians that they can't accept Jews in "their" land. Why can't they live in peace, in Israel? Or live in peace, alongside Israel? [/quote]
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