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Really?  I am quite house proud. Why buy a house and pay mortgage if you live like the people in "Hoarders"?  I have a neighbor like that, she does not call anyone and her kids do not play with anyone because their house is filthy.

Do not think of it as 2 hours of your life, think of it as 2 man-hours and divvy up the work with your family members.  Maybe if you all work together - it will be just 20-30 minutes of your time.

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I have zero problem with you being house proud. I have a problem with you prescribing this as an only way to live.

There is a myriad of possibilities between living like hoarders and washing two sets of clothes per person per day (again, I have to wonder how this becomes necessary.)

We have people and kids over at least once a week. I don't wince when they walk in with their shoes on. I don't get heartburn if the sofa pillows are tossed about. I don't get constipated if an odd coffee cup lingers. Mopping floors, eh, if you can't see the dirt, I'm not mopping. My life is about my family and friends, doing things we enjoy with people we love. Unmopped floors and unmade beds do not interfere with this. Moderate messes do not disturb me.  I choose sleep between cleaning and sleep. Anything major, the cleaners can deal with. [/quote]

Did I say you have to live like I do? I said that it takes me 2 man-hours to keep it ship-shaped.  If moderate messes do not annoy you - then great.  I did not ask you to come and clean my house.  Just because you do not clean your house does not mean - 1) you have more of a life  2) you entertain more  3) you are having fun.   Keeping a clean house does not mean that you are not doing all those things and more.

I asked the question that if you do not clean everyday - is your house messy?  You have answered that moderate amount of mess, unmopped floors and unmade mess do not bother you - in other words - your house is messier than mine.  We do make a choice in how we spend our time.  If my choice is a clean house everyday - then it will not happen automagically.   I will have to get my butt moving or pay someone to do that.

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Actually, I didn't say anything at all about how much you entertain, or how much life you have. I have no opinion at all on your social activities.  You made a comment, paraphrasing, that having a house and paying a mortgage is not worth it if you live like a hoarder, and told a story about your neighbor who is lonely and unpopular on account of your messy house. See how many judgments in one go? So it seemed fairly tame to point out to you, in response, that not cleaning with your particular brand of fervor doesn't equal a) hoarding, or b) being unpopular.

I agree that if you want to keep your house in your preferred state, it would take some effort.  I was merely making a comment that your definition of "ship-shape" probably is miles off what most people understand by a clean house, and that if it takes you two hours that you miss, you could probably stop doing 50% of what you're doing, and no one besides you would notice.   In other words, you do what you do because it pleases you to clean to your standard, not because the rules of good hygiene or sanitation require it.[b] It is my totally unscientific opinion that 99.9999% of the world's population simply doesn't care if the bed is perfectly straightened out UNDER the comforter thrown on top of said bed.[/b][/quote]

Another ignorant person with a myopic world view who does not that around the world most people will make their beds everyday. But whatever!  AND my hoarder neighbor also has the same excuse that she has better things to do with her time than clean the house. She is not unpopular but she has isolated herself from other because she does not want anyone to come to her house. Sad!
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