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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] But everyone does. I taught labs and graded tests at a very selective university during graduate school. I was a very strong supporter of affirmative action before that experience. The bottom 5-6 students in the classes I graded were [b]always[/b] African-american students, and often their grades were WAY below the grades of other students in the class. These kids simply didn't belong at the school, and their performance was radically worse than other students. Of course, they still got Cs and the (very) occasional D. Nobody really flunks out of prestigious universities, and the majority of these kids were passed through and got a degree which I honestly question if they actually deserved. Once you experience this disparity it's hard to look at affirmative action as a positive thing.[/quote] There's a big difference between the 400-point SAT gap in the Texas study somebody posted above, and the 100- or 150-point gap that PPs have pointed out for Harvard. A 400-point gap probably speaks to a meaningful difference in abilities. The Harvard difference between 2100 and 2250 is not going to affect academic performance quite so drastically. Also, 2100 is probably high enough to ensure competency at pretty much any college in the country.[/quote] PS. Should add that the thread is about "Top 10 Universities." So we're *not* talking about students with SATs of 1500 and who are 400 points below the university average SATs. Instead, at the Top 10, we're talking about maybe a 100-150 point gap and SAT scores that are highly respectable 2100s. The latter kids are perfectly capable of doing the work at any university in the country.[/quote]
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