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PS, sometimes moms get together and blow of steam about things that maybe they wouldn't do as easily among men. E.g.,

*My husband's socks-on-floor and toilet-seat-up issues
*Are your boobs and abs shot after childbearing, too?
*Where do you get your lips, legs, ass waxed?
*Porn: Yes or no?
*PPD
*Moms we can't stand :)

(I only contribute to two of the above topics, but I've heard them all! It's very "Women's Magazine" + pajama party.  No sports, very little politics (even among the very politically oriented mums), but almost always hysterical. :D)[/quote]

When I was in a moms' club, the conversation was mainly "My husband is so incompetent at domestic and childcare stuff, he doesn't even know that the baby's socks go on her feet. Men, huh?!" Having a SAHD in the room would not be good for this conversation topic.[/quote]

I agree with this, and hate it. I am not a SAHD but I am WOHM with a truly equal partner dad who is a WOHD.  I am really shocked by how many women really bash their husbands, and at the same time, shocked at how many men really do seem to dump everything on their wives- hello, 1950.  [b]But when women in a  group start bashing men in general, I feel like saying Um, maybe you people married neanderthals, but I did not. My husband gives baths, puts the babies to bed, shops for clothes, washes dishes, etc.[/b] And if I say something like "well, my husband does things differently" it comes across as bragging, and their is a sheen of judgement about me as well that I could interpret in a variety of ways. So if it is tough for ME not to play the downtrodden wife, I can imagine these women would not make it comfortable for a SAHD. And, OP, just imagine what those women are saying about your wife, I am sure it is not good. [/quote]

What circles do you move in? Are you fifty or older? Because none of the other SAHM in my circle do this, not even the ones whose husbands really don't have a clue. 95% of the WOHD that I know are pretty fully involved to the extent that their schedule allows. When my fellow SAHM friends complain, it's for a specific thing, like many of us complain when someone does something assy and out of character.[/quote]

When I was a SAHM I tried and left a few playgroups because I wasn't comfortable with the husband-bashing that was going on. There was also some WOHM-bashing though not as much. It made me pretty uncomfortable. Maybe it was just a few loudmouths but it was enough. Not nice.[/quote]

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