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Typically they do end up in the top percent not just by IQ but in grades and elsewhere as well.  My experience has been that the kids that were in G&T were also valedictorian, et cetera - otherwise generally top in their classes and most got scholarships for college.  One for example was also in the top 0.5% nationally on the PSAT and ended up getting a full scholarship to an Ivy.[/quote]

I'll put my anecdotes against yours: A lot of the "non-gifted" kids in my high school class have done as well or better in their careers than the "gifted" kids.[/quote]

Let's run through your scenario and look at some example numbers to delve into what the statistics would more typically look like and why your anecdotal information isn't really all that relevant - You are perfectly free to talk about the 10 non-gifted kids who went on to get their Ph.D., the 20 who ended up running a big successful business, et cetera, as compared to the 7 gifted kids who got their Ph.D. and the 12 who ended up running a big successful business but consider that maybe it's a class size of 600 where you are comparing the non-gifted population (97%, or 582 kids) where 10 out of 582 (or 1.7%) got Ph.Ds. and 20 out of 582 (or 3.4%) ended up running a big successful business as compared to the gifted population (3%, or just 18 kids) where 7 out of 18 (or 38%) got a Ph.D. and where 12 out of 18 (or 66%) ended up running a big successful business.[/quote]

Can you point to the study where you got your numbers? The fact is the kids that graduate top of their class are not the most successful kids in life/business/etcetera. They are the ones who continue to get more degrees and better grades, but are more likely to be an employee, not an employer.

Statistically, a dyslexic kid is more likely to own a business. [/quote]

That is often due to other issues with the employment picture and also doesn't always equate to success.  A huge number of businesses fail.

You also seem to be assuming that developmental issues like dyslexia are somehow mutually exclusive from giftedness, when that is not at all the case.  In fact, many high-IQ people have developmental issues such as autism spectrum disorder, like Aspergers.  Bill Gates for example, who dropped out of college.  Or, Isaac Newton, Michaelangelo, Mozart, Alan Turing, Albert Einstein, Nikola Tesla, Henry Cavendish, Emily Dickinson, James Joyce...  For some it does equate to high performance in academics, for others, the issues create a problem where it comes to academics or other areas, however they typically find successes elsewhere at a very high rate.

I really don't think you understand giftedness or how it works at all.  [/quote]

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