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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][i]Drawing on two recent, large-scale, and nationally representative databases, the Lubienskis show that any benefit seen in private school performance now is more than explained by demographics. Private schools have higher scores not because they are better institutions but because their students largely come from more privileged backgrounds that offer greater educational support. After correcting for demographics, the Lubienskis go on to show that gains in student achievement at public schools are at least as great and often greater than those at private ones. Even more surprising, [u]they show that the very mechanism that market-based reformers champion—autonomy—may be the crucial factor that prevents private schools from performing better.[/u] Alternatively, those practices that these reformers castigate, such as teacher certification and professional reforms of curriculum and instruction, turn out to have a significant effect on school improvement.[/i][/quote]

Nice. try comparing exmission from top privates vs top publics.[/quote]

They compared high income kids in public with high income kids in private. If you took all the kids at Whitman, the incomes would be relatively high (maybe a little lower than private). If you took all the kids at NCS and Field, and Visitation, and Burke, and Connelly, the incomes would be high. So that is where you compare. House hold income is the key, not the school. I am sure that if you income matched at DC area private schools with public schools, the outcome would be the same. My point is that there are rich kids who aren't smart enough to get into NCS. If NCS did a cherry picking at Whitman and got a similar group of kids, the outcome would be the same. [/quote]

I am so sorry that you can't afford private and need to pretend that it is the same as public.[/quote]
You know, it is this kind of obnoxious, superior, classist BS that makes me not want private.  Good God, if the parents are this awful, what are the kids like?  You could have just disagreed with PP, but instead acted disgusting and made no substantive point whatsoever.[/quote]

You know, she was responding to my post, and I have a child in private school and paying full tuition. I don't care about her silly response and feel sad that anyone could be so troubled (as an adult). Anyway, there are all types in private school. Also, there are some public schools in wealthy areas with parents who are just as immature and snooty as this poster. However, there are some families who truly believe that the public system can not educate their child, they just feel that way. Not all families are like that, but when you pay 30K (pretax 45K) in tuition for one child, you'd better be able to rationalize it. I tried to point out a study to give some perspective. I had actually suspected what the authors concluded since I saw many flaws in the academics at my dd's expensive private school. The only time they ever support private school is for HS when kids live in "blue collar" towns, but they or their families plan to send them to university. But the authors have cautioned that many private schools in these areas are marginally better than the public schools. I have friends who have lucrative businesses and practices in rural areas and they end up puzzled about what to do with their kids in HS.

FWIW, I went to private, parochial, and good public schools, at the end of the day, the public school did the best job, then the private, then the parochial. I have no strong opinions either way. [/quote]

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