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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm sure there are school systems that have the time to test children individually like this. Just because here in the DC area with classes well above 25 doesn't mean there aren't other schools much smaller with the time to do this. Outside of DC I hear about public schools in the 15-20 range all the time with no special ed, FARM, or ESOL students. Even here there are private schools of 10 kids in a class. [/quote] There may well be but this person doesn't want to disclose it nor does she want to hear anything but that her child is well above and beyond. Two first grade teachers commented as did many other parents about how advanced readers often level off and slower readers catch up. (That is precisely why most advanced academics don't start until third grade.)[/quote] I am not sure why it bothers anyone whether or not the PP's child is advanced. I am a school psychologist and the vast majority of advanced readers do not level off. There are kids who enter kindergarten decoding AND comprehending at a third grade level and above. It is silly to say the student doesn't comprehend a book because they can't somehow relate it to their own limited life experience. The vast majority of those kids do not stagnate for three years while the others catch up. They continue to progress, however, the difference is not so apparent. Anyone can tell the difference between reading at a kindergarten level (which is not really reading) and reading at a second grade level (you can read and understand beginning chapter books like Frog and Toad to slightly harder chapter book Junie B. Jones / Magic Tree House). However, it is much more difficult to tell the difference between reading at a third grade level and a fifth grade level, so it appears that everyone has leveled off. There are a few students who enter kinder without knowing any letter sounds and are fluent readers by the end of kindergarten and have caught up to the earlier readers by second grade or so. They tend to have attended play-based preschools AND have well-educated parent who have read to them since they were very young. The vast majority of students in the U.S. do NOT catch up if they are not reading at grade level in first grade; they fall further and further behind. Anyone interested in the research should Google Mark Stanovich and the "Matthew Effect".[/quote] This is completely, completely against what I've been taught in my education (masters degree in education), my experience in teaching (both first and third grades), and the continuing education courses I've taken. For what it is worth, we would not consider Junie B. Jones or Frog and Toad to be advanced literature on a third grade level. [b]I think the above poster is the sock puppeting mother of the kindergartener.[/b][/quote] You are wrong on a lot of things. Mom of kindergartner here. I'm not any of the PPs. And, it is becoming more and more clear that you just suck at reading comprehension.[/quote]
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