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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How about flesh eating bacteria? Where is the free will there?[/quote]Now, you're being ridiculous.  Again, sin compromised EVERYTHING but that will only make sense if you understand and identify with the consequences of sin and its impact on everything and everybody, warping and creating abnormalities.

Again, it's hard to make sense without understanding the biblical references to the impact of sin.  [b]If you are not into the Word, then it is and will always make no sense to a non-believer[/b].  But even we believers don't understand everything so we walk by faith, not by sight.  You have to decide how you will walk and what you believe.  [/quote]

I'm sorry, but you cannot simply say, "It's a faith thing, you wouldn't understand." These things are debatable, and have been debated for centuries. I'll accept whatever you say is based on faith, so you can say that for you, logic is the work of the devil, and that's a fine reason for not engaging in debate. But you should at least admit to what you're basing on faith.

For example, you say that sin compromised everything, so I return to my question above: does that mean it's your view that without original sin, there would be no earthquakes, ebola, or cancer?

Also, a pp points out that Christ died for our sins and redeemed the world. Why do we still have evil then?[/quote]I never post scripture without a biblical reference and sorry when I said we walk by faith, not by sight, I didn't give the biblical references which I have below with a link you might like to read:

2 Corinthians 5:7
http://beliefchangers.com/blog/2011/07/18/the-reason-must-you-walk-by-faith-and-not-by-sight/

[i]For example, you say that sin compromised everything, so I return to my question above: does that mean it's your view that without original sin, there would be no earthquakes, ebola, or cancer? [/i]
Yes.  It's my opinion based on scripture.  Again, I base my opinions based on what I believe and read in scripture, not by my emotions pr feelings (though it's hard sometimes which is why I walk by faith).

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I am a tiny bit concerned that some of the questions I've seen posted could very well have been answered by simply typing in the question on the internet which, most likely, take you to biblical references.  Although, I caution that there are charlatans out there so you have to be discriminating which I discovered eons ago when I first started my journey.*** [/quote]

I now see what you mean by "walk by faith, not by sight." If I understand it correctly, you cannot rely on what you see and instead follow an interior -- something -- you have called faith, through which God will talk to you and tell you what to do. Though it's not in the material you linked above, I take it that you must also not be guided by your emotions and feelings. So it seems to me your overall answer sort of is that logic is the work of the devil. Or at least that to the extent that logic might lead to to something inconsistent with your faith, you have to ignore logic, because faith is God telling you what's right. I'll refer to this as the First Principle.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I hope you can see how this is a bag full of holes. God just doesn't talk to most people in a way that they can understand. Otherwise why would you even need this guy to tell you that? God could tell you himself. Why would you study the bible? God can just tell you what you need to know. In fact, studying the bible sounds suspiciously like trying to initiate faith, which your guy says not to do. I'm guessing that since he makes a special case that hearing is different than seeing, you would say it's okay to listen to people like him with your real ears but also your faith ears, and it's okay to read the bible, which is just another way to hear the words of Christ and get them to your faith ears. But why should you trust any of this -- reading through your physical eyes, hearing through your physical ears, if you really had God whispering in your faith ears all the time.

And even more importantly, let's figure out what exactly this interior thing - "faith" - is. I don't want to use the words "sense" or "feeling," because those things are for the physical world, but it sounds an awful lot like an interior feeling. (As an aside, I wonder why emotions are off the trusted list, they are just as intangible as faith.) I think you would agree that faith is something you choose. You have to decide to not live by your eyes, even though, from all outward appearances, that seems like the most obvious thing to do. (For example, when approaching a cliff I'd use my eyes to figure out whether I'm about to step over, not my faith ears to see whether God's telling me to keep on walking). But assume you're listening and you're not hearing God. How do you know what faith is telling you to do? In fact, how do you even know you should have faith in Christ and not Allah or FSM? After all, you would never have heard of any of them except for someone telling you. And I suspect your friend has some physical world things for your physical world ears to hear about that. Finally, assume you do hear God telling you what to do, and he wants you to walk off a cliff, blow yourself up in a shopping mall, or send money to Jerry Falwell. How do you know it's God and not Satan, or that you're not insane? I'm guessing that you're supposed to trust your faith ears implicitly, without question, because they will never do you wrong. Indeed, Abraham would have sacrificed his own son at God's command.

But if you're willing to acknowledge that people can be wrong about whether God is really speaking to them or not, how can we possibly rely on faith in the way that's suggested? We have to use our real world brain and real world experience, and even our emotions, to know that if I think God's telling me to blow up a supermarket, I'm probably wrong about that and I should get some help.
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