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I didn't start a company so that others could afford more goods and services. This is a business, not social services.

If you want to spend years building a business- then feel free to. Take all of your hard work, sacrifice, and passion and channel into making sure that others can buy more goods. You do that with your business.

As for my business- if I need someone to answer the phone, respond to emails, stuff envelopes....whatever. I am not paying 40k a year. Keep on pushing and you will push me to outsource even more than I already do. And when I say outsource, I mean to Asia, not to another company. Less hassle, little red tape, harder workers.

So I still win, and you have pushed someone else out of a job.

If you don't like it, then start your own company.

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So would you argue there should be no minimum wage at all? If you can find someone to answer phones for $1/hr, that person should be allowed to make that choice, and you should be allowed to employ them for that wage?[/quote]

There is a minimum wage, so what is your point? Did I say it should be repealed? No I did not.

If I need to hire someone for $2 an hour...guess what, I can. It is called the global workforce. That is what you wanted right? To be a "global citizen".

Why do you think that you are entitled to tell other people how to run their businesses? What equity have you put in? What have you sacrificed? (Most) Businesses are private organizations, not government subsidiaries. Safety regulations are fine. Min wage is necessary.

But as for the rest, if you have so many great ideas on what companies should do, then prove it. Start your own company and do it. It is not your place to tell a private business owner how to allocate funds, especially when you know nothing as far as what goes on behind the scenes.
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So you approve of their being a minimum wage, but you don't want it to be a living wage? Am I understanding you?
Do you think minimum wage should be tied to cost of living at all, or should it just be increased randomly, as politicians see fit?
If a min. wage is necessary, why? Do you not trust market forces to create fair or reasonable wages? How do you determine what the minimum wage should be, if you don't tie it to something?[/quote]

If you are the pp, you did not answer my question. Why do you feel entitled to tell private business owners how to allocate the money that they have worked for? Why do you feel that private businesses are "community property"?

I would add to that, where does personal responsibility come in? The min wage is there- you know what it is when you go to orientation. So where is the responsibilty on the individual to get what they need? Plenty of people work 60, 70, 80 hours a week. Perhaps more time should be spent on finding an additional job, working towards getting promoted, or starting your own business as opposed to sitting around complaining about what you feel entitled to.

Nobody is paying you $15 an hour to wrap a sandwich or answer a telephone. Sorry.
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I'm not that PP, so I can't answer for that, sorry.

I'm still curious what reasons you have for being for a minimum wage, but against a living wage. Most folks I know think a living wage requirement isn't reasonable have related reasons for rejecting a minimum wage. They typically argue that market forces will bear out. That if it costs $15/hr to hire someone to answer a telephone, then so be it, but if it costs $1/hr to hire someone to make a sandwich, then that's just fine as well.

Your personal responsibilities comment seems to line up with that. But I'm missing something, since you're for a minimum wage. Can you explain more about that?[/quote]

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