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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I did get into Columbia. And i chose NYU over Columbia. I'm not full of crap, its the truth. I think I know far more about this than you do. The caliber of student everywhere has improved. the acceptance rates everywhere have declined. Thats true for many, many schools. This has nothing to do with US News and everything to do with demographic changes (including far more international applicants as well as the baby boomlet), the common app, better outreach to previously underrepresented groups. I wonder how old you are. I went to college in the early 80s. Cornell and Dartmouth did not attract the top students, more like 2nd and 3rd tier. Columbia didn't seem to attract anyone because the housing situation back then was horrific. Penn was a sought after school and I applied while I did not apply to the others. Frankly what has changed about Penn is not its overall reputation but its relatively new reputation as a Wharton school, preprofessional haven. I think the Wharton school didn't even have an undergraduate arm back then and now it seems to have taken over the whole school. For my DC, this makes Penn very UNattractive. I didn't go to Penn, I went to Princeton. I wrote that before. [/quote] On what basis do you think that you know "far more about this" than I do? It's unclear to me. On the basis that you went to college and law school at a different time? On the basis that you went to NYU Law and think it was regarded in same caliber as HYSCC the 1980s? (It wasn't.) On some other abstract basis you've yet to disclose? Suffice to say, my opinion on these matters is not less informed than yours, and I'd reckon that, in forums where people tend to be more informed about top colleges (not DCUM), many people would agree that USNWR has had a heavy hand in influencing the reputations of schools since its introduction in the 1980s. In any event, I don't care -- I went to top undergrad and grad schools that (I guess according to you) were top schools prior to USNWR's existence and post-USNWR. I think I'm just a bit more realistic in terms of estimating the impact the publication has had, and will have, on continuing generations of students. (Which is what this debate was originally about.) Feel free to continue believing that your 30 years-ago education gives you a leg up on everyone else in understanding the evolution of the reputation of national universities.[/quote]
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