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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People here are so out of touch. I know plenty of standard smart kids who can’t get into state flagships. A lot are lucky to get into the mid tier UCs let alone Berkeley or UCLA. College admissions are just that hard [/quote] OP said straight As, highest rigor, and 1500+SAT. If all three things are actually true, then the odds of getting into UVA, michigan, UNC, and UCB for those who are in-state in those places are exceeding high. When you hear of people who don't, this is what they mean: "4.0 gpa"--they mean weighted, they do not understand that in Virginia and many states 4.0 weighted is in the bottom half of the graduating class. "All As" they mean mix of A and A-, which is barely above average in many schools. "highest rigor" they mean 10+ APs or a mix of DE and AP or all DE. They have no concept that almost half the students at some high schools takes 10 AP and/or DE. The top students are on entirely different tracks and have an AP list and transcript that shows true highest rigor, no extra sudy halls, no skipped hard-grading teacher. I have been in the field for years and have never seen one single student anywhere in the region that has a true 4.0 unweighted in the absolute highest rigor, with a 1500+ who did not get into UVA in state. It does not happen. [/quote] UVA, yes! UMich and UNC probably. But not UCB from the DMV area. Those who got into UCB/UCLA here were also accepted by some top or mid-tier Ivies (not Cornell).[/quote]
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