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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ah, the UVA booster is back to claim that the two engineering schools have "significantly different groups."  The insecurity dripping from your (multiple) posts is just pathetic.

These two schools do not get "significantly different groups."  And, lest you forget, here are their engineering rankings:

VT - 14

UVA - 35[/quote]

The US News rankings are purely based on the peer survey, right? Not on salary or hiring data. [/quote]

+1 and not PhD matriculation data. 
For engineers who want to have a career driving the leading edge of innovation rather than an average engineering job one can get with a BS, UVA is the better pick over VT. Of course Stanford or Ivies or Hopkins is even better than UVA, but those are not options for OP. 
VT is not a program that tracks into the top sector of the broad array of engineering careers.  [/quote]

Quite frankly, this doesn't sound like you have any idea what you're talking about.[/quote]

I know a lot about it because I have talked to people in the field and DS has as well, during two different prestigious summer internships, industry and national lab. Engineering professors who have also worked in industry are a great source. There are many. We are lucky to have them in our family. They have taught at various unis from ivy/MIT to outside T50 Professors are not too different from ivy/MIT to T50, but the students are. They cannot teach at the same level. [b]PhD programs in engineering disciplines are well aware of which undergrads have rigorous stem courses, above and beyond ABET minimums. You need a phD if you want to lead innovation, whether it be in the private sector, university, or govt/DODefense in particular. PhD matriculation matters when deciding undergrad, for any student who wants to have those engineering careers open to them.[/b] Startups look for PhD as well because seed funding for startups often depends on whether you have phD on your staff or have hired consultants with phD. For those who want tech consulting, the top consulting companies hire many phD engineers(or applied physics/quantum computing/CS phD). Consulting is seen as a bit of a sell-out job to research based industry or academic types, yet it is a lucrative career in engineering. They hire BSE as well but almost exclusively from Stanford/MIT/ivies/UCB/CMU.
If phD is a possibility, UVA is the better pick over VT. 
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Interesting.  USNWR just released the 2026 Top Engineering Graduate Programs. Top 4 aren't surprising.

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings[/quote]

DP.  And VT is ten spots ahead of UVA in this graduate school ranking.  [/quote]

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