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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The US and EU will not abandon Israel, OP.

Retreating from this war does not constitute and abandonment of Israel. They will still have weapons deals with the West, and they will still occupy Lebanon. Sadly.

However, the image of Israel as the victim in the Middle East is shattered for this generation.

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lol the EU only goes along with the US on Israel. No NATO and 25% tariffs will allow the EU to go their own way. They will put sanctions on Israel. [/quote]

PP you replied to. I don't think so. I am French, and we deal with the legacy of WWII and the Holocaust in a way Americans cannot understand. I don't think the EU will abandon Israel anytime soon. [/quote]

How old are you? If you're over 30, you can tell yourself that. But younger people see Israel for the terrorist state it is. [/quote]

DP.  "Younger people" - presumably, like you - are just showing your profound ignorance.  You really, really want to forget the Holocaust ever existed.  I imagine you like to tell yourself it actually didn't happen, amirite?[/quote]

No- you are wrong, younger people and history buffs realize that the scope of the holocaust is much larger than 6 million, it ws 12-14 million who died in the camps.  the only people who want people to forget are  the Israelis, they certainly dont want anyone to remember that there were other victims of teh Nazi brutality or that there were colored victims of teh allies who were just caught up in freedom fighting from brutal colonization and couldn't care less about any European power- they were ALL BAD.  Its teh Isrealis  who dont want anyone to learn anything from the war-- they want everyone to forget about the Geneva convention.  to forget about the horror people faced upto and tried to prevent from happening again by their rejection of all the norms of warfare that were established as a reaction to the horrors of the world wars as well as the systematic undermining of institutions that were created to limit conflict like Nato and the UN b/c they constrain plans for Greater Isreal.  so no, its the Isrealis who want people to forget the horrors or to accept that humanity is incapable of learning of learning from history.  of the few survivors left- many are incredibly vocal against this current regime & speak out against what is happening, how many support it??? I can think of one in support and 5 against off the top of my head.  [/quote]

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