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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Religion is a cancer on society and without it we would not be in this mess. If you are a believer, this is your fault, whether you agree or not. Without the religious right there would be no power for the extreme right. Time to put your stupid bronze-age myths aside and live like an evolved human. You can do it.[/quote] +10 billion. Christopher Hitchens was right: Religion Poisons Everything. He also talked about how 'Moderate" christians give cover and legitimacy to the extremists. HE is all right about that. It is beyond time for us to not only stop with this religious tribalism and the beliefs themselves, as they are, as we speak, distracting us all from evolving as actual human beings that can make the world better. Religion has never done that. I wonder why??? [/quote] You’re about 20 years behind. New atheism is over. Hitchens os dead, Richard Dawkins now espouses “cultural” Christianity. New atheist Britain failed spectacularly and is transforming into what Hitchens hated even more than Christianity, a new Islamic society. [/quote] Immediate pp is WRONG. So what if Hitchens is dead? All people die - even Jesus Christ. Richard Dawkins ALWAYS espoused cultural Christianity, as do I, because I love the music that has come from it. I also love the Cathedrals that were built many years ago, supposedly for the glory of god, but they are engineering feats of humans. Atheist Britain hasn't failed at all. Been there lately? Its people are thriving - without God - and its cathedrals are full of tourists looking around.[/quote] Its people absolutely are not thriving. Wages, even when adjusted for living costs, are significantly lower than the US. What society built those beautiful Cathedrals that you profess to admire so much? What society’s people created the enlightenment and led to the colleges that allow humans to build feats of engineering? (Hint: Christians) Did this crop up during the times of the indigenous pagan beliefs of the Western Europeans? Absolutely not. These human creations have only come from one human civilization. [/quote] You're right. It was the civilization that rewarded concentration of wealth and power which was used to lord over the peasants. That’s why those cathedrals were built. It was a display of power and advertising for the authoritarian church. Indigenous pagans made music and danced and made art just like anyone else but[b] the Christians murdered them [the pagans] and used genocide to erase their cultural legacy. For you to now use that erasure as evidence that Christianity is righteous is probably one of the most perverse things I have read in a long while and that is truly a feat.[/b][/quote] +1[/quote]
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